How would you know?

[Drich]

Oh, oh! Do I see a no true scotsman fallacy? Or does that only work with actual scotsmen and Christian's who do things no 'true christian' would do?

I'll pick out this to respond to specifically because it isn't the fallacy you say it is.

A simple rendition would be:
Alice: All Scotsmen enjoy haggis.
Bob: My uncle is a Scotsman, and he doesn't like haggis!
Alice: Well, all true Scotsmen like haggis.

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The appearance of this fallacy should not be confused with actually failing to meet criteria. In the Scotsman and haggis example, it is quite doubtful that the widely accepted definition of a Scotsman necessarily includes liking haggis. (It is more likely to include being born of Scottish parents.) To Alice it does include liking haggis; to Bob and, probably, to the reader of the above section, it does not. On the other hand, consider a conversation along these lines:
Deb: All vegetarians refuse to eat steak.
Jake: My aunt is a vegetarian, and she eats steak all the time!
Deb: Well, then she's not really a vegetarian.

In this example, Deb's reply is reasonable, because it is widely accepted that being a vegetarian does necessarily involve refusing to eat meat.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman

Using the definition of an atheist, it is unreasonable for an atheist to petition a god, considering they don't believe one exists.

we were all born Atheists! Think about it before you say something foolish.

You know exactly what I mean. I was talking with reference to the above explanation. Surely you are not so stupid to think that I meant anything other than that.


As for the rest, I'd really be going over the same old shit explaining to you my points.

We obviously disagree on certain 'characteristics' of your god.

Whatever.

It's going to go nowhere.

Cheers for the explanations, but I don't find them at all convincing.

i do know what you mean and have use your explaination to climb out of the same mislables put on 'christians.' Just thought it would be fun to turn the tables, and see how you would respond.

I am not here to convince anyone of anything. i am here just broad casting pure/clean seed. whether you completely agree or not is not the point. the point is now you've at least heard/read an accurate biblical repersentation of God in relation to your questions or concerns. It is most logical that you do not see things as i do, or you'd have my faith. you have a picture of God (whether as an atheist you can admit it or not is another discussion one I have little interest in), and I have another. The question is are you willing to change your picture IF the bible or God shows you otherwise? If you can there is hope. if however, you must hold on to what your faith as an atheist demands despite the evidence to the contary... Then good luck finding the god you have painted for yourself, so you can give him a piece of your mind when this life is over.