RE: Prayer?
August 4, 2012 at 11:19 pm
(This post was last modified: August 4, 2012 at 11:27 pm by Drich.)
(August 4, 2012 at 1:47 pm)Thor Wrote: How does "sin" = cancer in a five year old?God hands the reigns over to allow for sin. It's an all or nothing deal. If we want to be under Gods care and protection from things like cancer hunger and natural disasters then we must be in His will which means no sin or rather we can not be in our own will.
That is why Heaven is free of these things because that realm completely follows His will His plan, and subsequently it falls under His protection.
Quote:Unsubstantiated bullshit.substantiated by the same book that establishes the existance of God. If you acknoweledge God by asking a question like 'how can God..." then you have to also accept the answer provided by the same source material that gives you the information to ask your question.
Quote:Oh, please! It's up to us to prevent earthquakes, hurricanes and tornadoes? And how does a five year old prevent cancer? This is just ridiculous!He doesn't, but he lives in a realm where his forefathers accepted complete responsiablity for everything God would normally be responsiable for.
Quote:I wasn't asking this question from a medical standpoint. I was asking why your supposedly "loving" deity would allow a child to suffer with cancer.As 'we' have already discussed God is not subject to your expectation of 'loving.'
(August 4, 2012 at 6:37 pm)cato123 Wrote: Drich,
I simply don't understand the intent of the OP. I understand what you're after and had some of the same concerns when I was 6 and made to memorize the Lord's Prayer and the traditional Catholic dinner chant, but what type of reaction did you expect?
Anti-theist - Fuuuuuck
Athesit - Pray to who?
Deist - May as well pray to a magic eight ball. Quit bothering God with your troubles/wishes.
Muslim/Jew/other religion - doesn't apply and breaks down to arguing about divine texts and books
Christian - Aren't Christian forums better places for this discussion?
OR????????
Have you already tried the Christian joints and found that a vast majority believe in intercessory prayer and won't engage you in the nuance of what Jesus was supposed to have taught?
I have several conversation in public and private where the loss of faith boiled down to a series of unanswered prayers/wishes. although some of the stories were touching, none of which followed the model of prayer offered by Christ.
so why did I feel like i should share this? because IF any of you want to reach out to God, I thought you'd might want the best possiable shot of reaching Him. (through actual prayer, and not through desperate wishing when you world is falling apart and you have no other place to turn.)
It seems some of you have been looking for this missing element.