Drich Wrote:What fails is that you do not understand what 'tool' Is being discussed. The 'tool' or gun here is free will or the ablity to sin. God knew the evil that would come of our ablity to be outside of His expressed will and provided attonement for it (so it did take into account God's omnipotence even if you could not connect the dots on your own) We were given 'freewill' and we misused it. We took that tool and turned it on God to be outside of His expressed will, rather to be in it and under His protection. Protection (among other things) from things like cancer in our children.
Whether the 'tool' is free will or a gun is irrelevant. What is relevant is an omnipotent, omniscient deity's culpability in giving human beings this tool when it would cause such horrible things as a child being ravaged and eventually killed by a horrible disease. When you take into account that the reason he gave us free will was simply so we could choose whether or not to do what he wanted us to, said deity becomes a sadistic bastard. Your god is more concerned with playing games with people's souls than alleviating suffering.
'Drich Wrote:So i ask again if the cure for cancer (even timmy's) came at the cost of 'free will' would you gladly give up your free will? will you give back your gun?
Absolutely, I would give it up in a second if that meant that no one had to be ravished by cancer, raped, molested, tortured, or murdered. What disturbs me, however, is you seem to be asking this as some kind of 'gotcha' question as if you believed my answer would be no. Which leads me to think that your answer to the question is no.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell