(August 5, 2012 at 6:46 pm)Drich Wrote: We were given 'freewill' and we misused it. We took that tool and turned it on God to be outside of His expressed will, rather to be in it and under His protection. Protection (among other things) from things like cancer in our children.
According to your mythology (which I am positive you will tell me I have misinterpreted entirely) the punishment for A&E who were mentally equivalent to a child and more gullible than one was being broken off from God, with all their ancestors punished for their crime. All this despite God having the foresight and the capacity to change how the events would play out before he even set said events into motion.
Now, when you say "expressed will" do you mean to tell me that our gullible ancestors who we don't even know existed were firmly responsible for their decisions? If anyone is to blame in that scenario your God has sole responsibility. Direct responsibility, because he was there. Then he gets pissed that we aren't following his rules and kills everyone before he issues commandments? His lack of information is criminal, but his vindictiveness for rules nobody could have known or reasonably followed is simply disgusting.
(August 5, 2012 at 6:46 pm)Drich Wrote: So i ask again if the cure for cancer (even timmy's) came at the cost of 'free will' would you gladly give up your free will? will you give back your gun?
Are you implying that Timmy's brother is to blame because a magic snake convinced a gullible woman to eat a piece of fruit?
Is it a formal or informal fallacy to blame one's offspring for a crime committed by the predecessor?
Free will has no link at all to whether or not disease ought to exist in a world with a kind and loving God at the helm, running the show from above.
My conclusion is that there is no reason to believe any of the dogmas of traditional theology and, further, that there is no reason to wish that they were true.
Man, in so far as he is not subject to natural forces, is free to work out his own destiny. The responsibility is his, and so is the opportunity.
-Bertrand Russell
Man, in so far as he is not subject to natural forces, is free to work out his own destiny. The responsibility is his, and so is the opportunity.
-Bertrand Russell