(July 28, 2012 at 10:27 pm)A Theist Wrote: Ha Ha! Excellent!...and I'll organize a revolt of the masses when you become president!
I don't know if you're still here or not but I'd thought about this and wanted to comment on it. At first, I dismissed it as so much macho bluster from the right wing but I think it really does indicate the mindset of the wacky right (aka "Tea Party") these days.
For all the wacky right's talk of patriotism and love for America, it's really their ideology that commands their loyalty, not any sense of community or loyalty to the Constitution. If their country "turns against them" and legally and Constitutionally elects a liberal government, that's when you hear of talk of revolt or insurrection.
We have a word for this: Treason.
You see, it's one thing to be the "loyal opposition". That's where you protest your current government, you send in letters and petitions to express your grievances, you file lawsuits if the current administration breaks the law or passes unconstitutional laws, you vote in the next election to throw the current leaders out, etc. The loyal opposition makes their opinions known out of love for their country.
But while dissent is patriotic, insurrection in response to legal and fair elections in order to impose your will at gunpoint on the majority is not.
The fine distinction between "loyal opposition" and "treason" is often lost on the wacky right. During the Bush administration, the word "traitor" was bandied about for anyone heard speaking critically of Bush or the war in Iraq. No one spoke of not supporting our troops, never mind insurrection, but patriotism and blind obedience to a right wing president were conflated together.
Now that we have a so-called "liberal" in office (in reality an accommodating centrist but it's all relative, I suppose, to the wacky right) the wacky right continues to miss the distinction. The word "treason" in their shrill cries have been replaced with "tyranny" and a lot of talk of secession and revolution. Evidently, "you lost the election, get over it" only applies to liberals.
Put bluntly, the wacky right doesn't really love America nor are they loyal to the Constitution. They love their ideology. This is evident in the way they can't stand peaceful dissent when "their guy" is in power and behave as if they lived in an occupied country when "our guy" (not really) is in power.
You can save face by claiming you were "just joking" but this is the kind of talk I've become accustomed to from the wacky right and we've seen enough incidents of right wing violence in the last four years to know that while you may not share their frankly undemocratic tendencies, such tendencies are typical of the wacky right.
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