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Prayer?
RE: Prayer?
(August 4, 2012 at 11:19 pm)Drich Wrote: [quote='Thor' pid='319465' dateline='1344102446']
How does "sin" = cancer in a five year old?

Quote:God hands the reigns over to allow for sin. It's an all or nothing deal. If we want to be under Gods care and protection from things like cancer hunger and natural disasters then we must be in His will which means no sin or rather we can not be in our own will.

And..... this makes no sense whatsoever.

Quote:That is why Heaven is free of these things because that realm completely follows His will His plan, and subsequently it falls under His protection.

You have any evidence that "Heaven" actually exists?

Didn't think so.

Quote:Unsubstantiated bullshit.

Quote:substantiated by the same book that establishes the existance of God.

Which is no evidence at all. Do you believe the Koran? Why not? That book establishes the existence of Allah.

Quote: If you acknoweledge God by asking a question like 'how can God..." then you have to also accept the answer provided by the same source material that gives you the information to ask your question.

I don't acknowledge deities. Phrasing a question by saying "How can god..." does not actually acknowledge your deity. You don't understand ths?

Quote:Oh, please! It's up to us to prevent earthquakes, hurricanes and tornadoes? And how does a five year old prevent cancer? This is just ridiculous!

Quote:He doesn't, but he lives in a realm where his forefathers accepted complete responsiablity for everything God would normally be responsiable for.

What crap. So your deity just washes his hands of everything? So why worship him?


Quote:I wasn't asking this question from a medical standpoint. I was asking why your supposedly "loving" deity would allow a child to suffer with cancer.

Quote:As 'we' have already discussed God is not subject to your expectation of 'loving.'

Obviously not. Any being that could cure or prevent cancer in a child and does nothing doesn't count as "loving" under any definition.
Science flies us to the moon and stars. Religion flies us into buildings.

God allowed 200,000 people to die in an earthquake. So what makes you think he cares about YOUR problems?
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Prayer? - by Drich - August 3, 2012 at 12:16 am
RE: Prayer? - by Faith No More - August 3, 2012 at 12:27 am
RE: Prayer? - by Jackalope - August 3, 2012 at 12:32 am
RE: Prayer? - by Drich - August 3, 2012 at 5:34 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Faith No More - August 3, 2012 at 6:06 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Drich - August 3, 2012 at 6:59 pm
RE: Prayer? - by The Grand Nudger - August 3, 2012 at 12:34 am
RE: Prayer? - by Lion IRC - August 3, 2012 at 1:03 am
RE: Prayer? - by FallentoReason - August 3, 2012 at 1:05 am
RE: Prayer? - by Minimalist - August 3, 2012 at 2:01 am
RE: Prayer? - by C.W. Sims - August 3, 2012 at 12:29 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Drich - August 3, 2012 at 6:11 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Thor - August 3, 2012 at 9:22 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Cinjin - August 5, 2012 at 8:52 am
RE: Prayer? - by Drich - August 5, 2012 at 1:26 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Ryantology - August 5, 2012 at 9:44 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Drich - August 5, 2012 at 10:17 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Reforged - August 3, 2012 at 6:33 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Minimalist - August 3, 2012 at 12:37 am
RE: Prayer? - by FallentoReason - August 3, 2012 at 12:50 am
RE: Prayer? - by C.W. Sims - August 3, 2012 at 12:55 am
RE: Prayer? - by Drich - August 3, 2012 at 6:03 pm
RE: Prayer? - by C.W. Sims - August 3, 2012 at 6:31 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Drich - August 3, 2012 at 10:09 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Thor - August 4, 2012 at 1:47 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Drich - August 4, 2012 at 11:19 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Ryantology - August 4, 2012 at 11:28 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Thor - August 6, 2012 at 4:06 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Godschild - August 5, 2012 at 2:24 am
RE: Prayer? - by Thor - August 6, 2012 at 4:43 pm
RE: Prayer? - by The Grand Nudger - August 3, 2012 at 1:10 am
RE: Prayer? - by Shell B - August 3, 2012 at 1:29 am
RE: Prayer? - by Zen Badger - August 3, 2012 at 6:41 am
RE: Prayer? - by KichigaiNeko - August 3, 2012 at 7:21 am
RE: Prayer? - by Cyberman - August 3, 2012 at 12:44 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Anomalocaris - August 3, 2012 at 12:51 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Thor - August 3, 2012 at 12:53 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Godschild - August 3, 2012 at 1:20 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Thor - August 3, 2012 at 2:00 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Godschild - August 4, 2012 at 1:57 am
RE: Prayer? - by Skepsis - August 4, 2012 at 7:05 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Whateverist - August 3, 2012 at 1:17 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Anomalocaris - August 3, 2012 at 1:26 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Cyberman - August 3, 2012 at 1:27 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Annik - August 3, 2012 at 2:08 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Anomalocaris - August 3, 2012 at 2:11 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Whateverist - August 3, 2012 at 2:29 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Cyberman - August 3, 2012 at 2:12 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Lion IRC - August 3, 2012 at 5:35 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Cyberman - August 3, 2012 at 5:53 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Whateverist - August 3, 2012 at 5:55 pm
RE: Prayer? - by pgrimes15 - August 5, 2012 at 7:40 am
RE: Prayer? - by Drich - August 5, 2012 at 1:01 pm
RE: Prayer? - by downbeatplumb - August 5, 2012 at 1:15 pm
RE: Prayer? - by pgrimes15 - August 5, 2012 at 2:40 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Cyberman - August 5, 2012 at 3:02 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Drich - August 5, 2012 at 6:36 pm
RE: Prayer? - by C.W. Sims - August 3, 2012 at 5:41 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Drich - August 3, 2012 at 6:47 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Whateverist - August 3, 2012 at 6:57 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Faith No More - August 3, 2012 at 6:52 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Reforged - August 3, 2012 at 7:00 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Drich - August 3, 2012 at 7:10 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Minimalist - August 3, 2012 at 7:19 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Drich - August 3, 2012 at 7:33 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Faith No More - August 3, 2012 at 7:34 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Drich - August 3, 2012 at 9:59 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Whateverist - August 4, 2012 at 12:56 pm
RE: Prayer? - by The Grand Nudger - August 3, 2012 at 7:47 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Cyberman - August 3, 2012 at 10:05 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Minimalist - August 4, 2012 at 1:59 am
RE: Prayer? - by Cato - August 4, 2012 at 6:37 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Cyberman - August 4, 2012 at 7:19 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Drich - August 4, 2012 at 11:32 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Ryantology - August 4, 2012 at 11:38 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Drich - August 4, 2012 at 11:50 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Ryantology - August 5, 2012 at 10:22 am
RE: Prayer? - by Minimalist - August 4, 2012 at 7:47 pm
RE: Prayer? - by KichigaiNeko - August 5, 2012 at 7:45 am
RE: Prayer? - by Faith No More - August 5, 2012 at 1:55 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Drich - August 5, 2012 at 6:25 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Lion IRC - August 5, 2012 at 3:02 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Lion IRC - August 5, 2012 at 3:19 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Cyberman - August 5, 2012 at 3:24 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Erinome - August 5, 2012 at 3:39 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Deicide73 - August 5, 2012 at 6:14 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Faith No More - August 5, 2012 at 6:32 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Drich - August 5, 2012 at 6:46 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Skepsis - August 5, 2012 at 11:01 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Drich - August 6, 2012 at 12:34 am
RE: Prayer? - by Skepsis - August 6, 2012 at 2:14 am
RE: Prayer? - by Drich - August 6, 2012 at 12:26 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Skepsis - August 6, 2012 at 2:16 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Drich - August 6, 2012 at 4:08 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Skepsis - August 6, 2012 at 10:20 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Drich - August 6, 2012 at 11:15 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Skepsis - August 7, 2012 at 12:17 am
RE: Prayer? - by Cyberman - August 5, 2012 at 6:45 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Faith No More - August 5, 2012 at 7:54 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Drich - August 5, 2012 at 9:33 pm
RE: Prayer? - by The Grand Nudger - August 5, 2012 at 9:06 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Ryantology - August 5, 2012 at 10:31 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Drich - August 6, 2012 at 12:18 am
RE: Prayer? - by Epimethean - August 6, 2012 at 12:27 am
RE: Prayer? - by Cyberman - August 6, 2012 at 12:43 am
RE: Prayer? - by Whateverist - August 6, 2012 at 1:18 am
RE: Prayer? - by KichigaiNeko - August 6, 2012 at 2:21 am
RE: Prayer? - by Faith No More - August 6, 2012 at 8:44 am
RE: Prayer? - by The Grand Nudger - August 6, 2012 at 9:15 am
RE: Prayer? - by Drich - August 6, 2012 at 11:08 am
RE: Prayer? - by Cyberman - August 6, 2012 at 1:53 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Drich - August 6, 2012 at 2:44 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Epimethean - August 6, 2012 at 10:34 am
RE: Prayer? - by Minimalist - August 6, 2012 at 1:13 pm
RE: Prayer? - by The Grand Nudger - August 6, 2012 at 2:34 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Erinome - August 6, 2012 at 2:51 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Cinjin - August 6, 2012 at 11:02 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Cyberman - August 6, 2012 at 2:54 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Drich - August 6, 2012 at 4:20 pm
RE: Prayer? - by The Grand Nudger - August 6, 2012 at 4:16 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Cyberman - August 6, 2012 at 4:43 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Drich - August 6, 2012 at 9:29 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Cyberman - August 6, 2012 at 9:49 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Drich - August 6, 2012 at 10:14 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Cyberman - August 6, 2012 at 11:03 pm
RE: Prayer? - by The Grand Nudger - August 6, 2012 at 9:34 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Drich - August 6, 2012 at 9:36 pm
RE: Prayer? - by The Grand Nudger - August 6, 2012 at 9:43 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Drich - August 6, 2012 at 10:22 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Minimalist - August 6, 2012 at 10:22 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Cinjin - August 6, 2012 at 11:06 pm
RE: Prayer? - by The Grand Nudger - August 6, 2012 at 11:23 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Drich - August 6, 2012 at 11:37 pm
RE: Prayer? - by The Grand Nudger - August 6, 2012 at 11:43 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Drich - August 7, 2012 at 1:05 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Skepsis - August 7, 2012 at 4:11 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Drich - August 7, 2012 at 6:38 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Skepsis - August 7, 2012 at 8:17 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Drich - August 7, 2012 at 11:08 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Skepsis - August 8, 2012 at 1:22 am
RE: Prayer? - by Whateverist - August 7, 2012 at 4:49 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Epimethean - August 7, 2012 at 12:30 am
RE: Prayer? - by The Grand Nudger - August 7, 2012 at 4:14 pm
RE: Prayer? - by The Grand Nudger - August 7, 2012 at 6:45 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Drich - August 7, 2012 at 10:00 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Lion IRC - August 8, 2012 at 1:30 am
RE: Prayer? - by Cato - August 8, 2012 at 2:09 am
RE: Prayer? - by Cyberman - August 8, 2012 at 4:03 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Cyberman - August 9, 2012 at 12:14 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Lion IRC - August 9, 2012 at 11:37 pm
RE: Prayer? - by The Grand Nudger - August 8, 2012 at 1:52 am
RE: Prayer? - by Skepsis - August 8, 2012 at 3:54 am
RE: Prayer? - by Anomalocaris - August 8, 2012 at 2:19 am
RE: Prayer? - by Minimalist - August 8, 2012 at 4:31 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Drich - August 8, 2012 at 11:09 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Skepsis - August 12, 2012 at 1:06 am
RE: Prayer? - by The Grand Nudger - August 9, 2012 at 12:17 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Drich - August 9, 2012 at 12:27 pm
RE: Prayer? - by The Grand Nudger - August 9, 2012 at 12:32 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Cyberman - August 10, 2012 at 12:04 am
RE: Prayer? - by Lion IRC - August 10, 2012 at 12:54 am
RE: Prayer? - by Cato - August 10, 2012 at 10:32 am
RE: Prayer? - by Cyberman - August 10, 2012 at 12:00 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Reforged - August 10, 2012 at 9:28 pm
RE: Prayer? - by The Grand Nudger - August 10, 2012 at 1:17 am
RE: Prayer? - by Faith No More - August 10, 2012 at 7:40 am
RE: Prayer? - by Minimalist - August 10, 2012 at 3:12 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Minimalist - August 10, 2012 at 12:03 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Cyberman - August 10, 2012 at 10:37 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Reforged - August 10, 2012 at 11:12 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Cyberman - August 10, 2012 at 11:40 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Undeceived - August 11, 2012 at 12:24 am
RE: Prayer? - by Reforged - August 11, 2012 at 12:28 am
RE: Prayer? - by Undeceived - August 11, 2012 at 12:43 am
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RE: Prayer? - by Undeceived - August 11, 2012 at 12:45 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Reforged - August 11, 2012 at 9:13 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Thor - August 11, 2012 at 12:59 am
RE: Prayer? - by Cyberman - August 11, 2012 at 12:53 am
RE: Prayer? - by Cyberman - August 11, 2012 at 1:27 am
RE: Prayer? - by ElDinero - August 11, 2012 at 4:56 am
RE: Prayer? - by Lion IRC - August 11, 2012 at 3:08 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Thor - August 11, 2012 at 5:56 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Faith No More - August 11, 2012 at 3:27 pm
RE: Prayer? - by The Grand Nudger - August 11, 2012 at 4:52 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Minimalist - August 11, 2012 at 6:04 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Faith No More - August 11, 2012 at 9:22 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Minimalist - August 11, 2012 at 10:20 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Reforged - August 11, 2012 at 10:55 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Minimalist - August 12, 2012 at 12:02 am
RE: Prayer? - by Drich - August 12, 2012 at 12:11 am
RE: Prayer? - by Thor - August 12, 2012 at 12:40 am
RE: Prayer? - by Drich - August 12, 2012 at 5:15 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Tobie - August 12, 2012 at 5:17 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Thor - August 13, 2012 at 9:31 am
RE: Prayer? - by Undeceived - August 13, 2012 at 1:06 am
RE: Prayer? - by Reforged - August 13, 2012 at 1:09 am
RE: Prayer? - by Undeceived - August 13, 2012 at 1:22 am
RE: Prayer? - by Reforged - August 13, 2012 at 1:27 am
RE: Prayer? - by Undeceived - August 13, 2012 at 1:42 am
RE: Prayer? - by Reforged - August 13, 2012 at 12:06 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Undeceived - August 13, 2012 at 12:48 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Reforged - August 13, 2012 at 12:58 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Thor - August 13, 2012 at 3:28 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Drich - August 13, 2012 at 8:24 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Thor - August 14, 2012 at 10:21 am
RE: Prayer? - by Undeceived - August 14, 2012 at 1:35 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Drich - August 14, 2012 at 2:04 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Thor - August 14, 2012 at 2:46 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Drich - August 14, 2012 at 6:36 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Thor - August 15, 2012 at 12:23 am
RE: Prayer? - by Drich - August 16, 2012 at 9:00 am
RE: Prayer? - by Thor - August 16, 2012 at 4:36 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Drich - August 16, 2012 at 7:31 pm
RE: Prayer? - by ElDinero - August 12, 2012 at 6:03 am
RE: Prayer? - by Drich - August 12, 2012 at 5:31 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Reforged - August 12, 2012 at 5:46 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Drich - August 12, 2012 at 10:47 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Reforged - August 13, 2012 at 12:50 am
RE: Prayer? - by Skepsis - August 13, 2012 at 1:32 am
RE: Prayer? - by Drich - August 13, 2012 at 4:30 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Skepsis - August 14, 2012 at 9:14 am
RE: Prayer? - by Drich - August 14, 2012 at 12:56 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Skepsis - August 14, 2012 at 8:11 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Drich - August 14, 2012 at 1:58 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Drich - August 13, 2012 at 5:56 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Zen Badger - August 12, 2012 at 7:16 am
RE: Prayer? - by Reforged - August 12, 2012 at 11:34 am
RE: Prayer? - by Minimalist - August 12, 2012 at 4:52 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Tobie - August 12, 2012 at 5:11 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Gambit - August 12, 2012 at 12:13 am
RE: Prayer? - by The Grand Nudger - August 12, 2012 at 9:26 am
RE: Prayer? - by WhatIfGodWasJustAMyth - August 12, 2012 at 4:29 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Minimalist - August 12, 2012 at 5:17 pm
RE: Prayer? - by The Grand Nudger - August 13, 2012 at 10:40 am
RE: Prayer? - by Undeceived - August 13, 2012 at 12:19 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Reforged - August 13, 2012 at 12:30 pm
RE: Prayer? - by The Grand Nudger - August 13, 2012 at 6:13 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Faith No More - August 13, 2012 at 7:40 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Minimalist - August 13, 2012 at 10:27 pm
RE: Prayer? - by The Grand Nudger - August 14, 2012 at 12:10 am
RE: Prayer? - by Tobie - August 14, 2012 at 3:26 am
RE: Prayer? - by Drich - August 14, 2012 at 8:25 am
RE: Prayer? - by The Grand Nudger - August 14, 2012 at 8:40 am
RE: Prayer? - by The Grand Nudger - August 14, 2012 at 10:48 am
RE: Prayer? - by Minimalist - August 14, 2012 at 2:03 pm
RE: Prayer? - by The Grand Nudger - August 14, 2012 at 5:27 pm
RE: Prayer? - by padraic - August 16, 2012 at 9:39 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Jackalope - August 16, 2012 at 11:50 am
RE: Prayer? - by Epimethean - August 16, 2012 at 9:19 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Lion IRC - August 19, 2012 at 2:06 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Reforged - August 20, 2012 at 7:31 am
RE: Prayer? - by FallentoReason - August 21, 2012 at 2:31 am
RE: Prayer? - by Lion IRC - August 23, 2012 at 2:38 am
RE: Prayer? - by Cyberman - August 21, 2012 at 6:16 pm
RE: Prayer? - by The Grand Nudger - August 18, 2012 at 4:49 pm
RE: Prayer? - by The Grand Nudger - August 19, 2012 at 2:32 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Epimethean - August 20, 2012 at 6:40 am
RE: Prayer? - by Ryantology - August 20, 2012 at 4:30 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Drich - August 20, 2012 at 11:08 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Ryantology - August 20, 2012 at 11:13 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Drich - August 21, 2012 at 8:51 am
RE: Prayer? - by Ryantology - August 21, 2012 at 4:01 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Drich - August 21, 2012 at 5:24 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Ryantology - August 21, 2012 at 5:44 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Drich - August 21, 2012 at 5:58 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Minimalist - August 20, 2012 at 11:21 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Ryantology - August 21, 2012 at 2:35 am
RE: Prayer? - by Epimethean - August 21, 2012 at 9:23 am
RE: Prayer? - by The Grand Nudger - August 21, 2012 at 5:35 pm
RE: Prayer? - by The Grand Nudger - August 21, 2012 at 6:06 pm
RE: Prayer? - by Cyberman - August 23, 2012 at 10:01 am

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