Prayer?

[Drich]

Sooo... none?

So, none what?

The blame lies on God even more so with this theory. First of all, trillions of years? Really?

sounds kinda silly when you say it like that, but alas that is what evolutionist still believe, and say they can provide 'evidence' for the trillions of years between creation and the fall of man. (about 6000 years ago) So appearently yes really. (Even though between you and me it sounds alittle far fetched)

You can't assume that, just because there was no timeline, A&E lived for trillions of years.

A&E were allowed to eat from the tree of life. so why would they eat of the tree of knoweledge (forbidden) if they haven't eaten of the tree of life first?
As Genesis explains The tree of life allows one to live forever.

As 'trillions of years' is a drop in the bucket next to forever, then it is not beyond the prameters of the creation account for Adam and eve to have lived that long.

Second, if God created them with curiosity and made it so they would live forever, whose fault is it when they run out of things to question and test?He put them in a confined environment and allowed them infinite life.

Again, that was the point. Adam and Eve did everything according to plan. Even the fall was apart of the plan. without it none of us would have been here.

Eve knew that Satan was lying? How?

Because it was in direct opposition of what God told Her. The same God she potentially knew for trillions of years. The God that created them and walk along side them in the garden.

Animals never meant any harm before, why should she suspect anything?

Because God told Her directly.

Eve only heard this command secondhand from Adam, so it held less authority. Then a magic snake comes and fools the most gullible one, and the blame is on them? Nope, I still don't see it.

Genesis 3:2 seem to disagree with your account of things. Satan asks what did god tell her and She repeats the warning. Eve knew what she was doing. again which was apart of the plan.
Otherwise the tree nor satan would have ever been allowed in the Garden. This whole thing was about choice from the beginning.

But it was a punishment. It was detrimental to the people and was a consequence, making it a punishment. A punishment for something they shouldn't have been expected to follow through with anyway.

If you have sex with someone with aids and you contract HIV is it a consenquence or punishment? God told them what would happen, and it did. That is a consenquence as the direct result of an specific action.
The 'punishment' was to be found in the hard labor Men were to do and the pains of labor women experienced in child birth. The handing the world over and making man responsiable for everything was a consenquence.
Even if you insist that it was still a punishment, Punishments are always a consenquence of undesired action. Still makes it a consenquence.

Humans are easily fooled.

Only when we want to be.
This is what satan played on. They wanted to be fooled and were looking for any reason to be fooled into doing something they knew was wrong, but wanted to do anyway..

We can't even tell reality from a dream half the time. I hear Satan's name means "deceiver". With Eve having little knowledge of God firsthand, she was the perfect target for being fooled. Both of them knew nothing about malevolent people or things trying to trick them, and were perfect targets. God knew all this and allowed Satan to continue in his existence anyway. You are trying to blame the victim, even if the scenario is in a fairytale.

There is no blame as it was apart of the plan, and yet God took responsiablity for the sins commited anyway.

And the bald man wanted hair so much he purchased snake oil from the salesman, despite the fact it would bankrupt his family.
Their fault was gullibility, even though they had no experience with other people? Keep in mind that even people who have been fooled before and are aware of the phenomenon can still be gullible.

They knew of death. God warned them they would die if they ate of that fruit.. what else is their to say? they wanted to eat of that fruit probably because they did everything else 1000 times over and want to see what elses there was to experience. Even in the face of the warning God gave them.

The Old testament.

Sorry, should have been more clear. Real evidence.

Do i have to seriously explain this "moving the goal post" fallacy to each and every one of you?

If you are speaking about God and the bible is the only book that defines God or if you ask a question that is based on what the bible tells you, then the bible (like it or not) becomes a legitmate source. or "real evidence."
You can not base a question from the bible and then refuse the bible as a legitmate source to answer a question derived from with in it's pages.

A blood sacrifice scapegoat? Why doesn't he just forgive us and recognize us for who he created us as? Why doesn't he have compassion for the creations he supposedly knows everything about? Killing and resurrecting someone is hardly a sacrifice, common sense tells us that. Why not just recognize our faults and be forgiving, rather than forcing a belief on everyone? 'Tis silly.

God's leading attribute is righteousness and not Love. Otherwise how could He sacerfice His son?

Righteousness Demands that the wage of sin be paid out. Or that attonement be offered in the sinners stead.

Sooooo... prayer doesn't work?

Prayer does, wish making, not so much.

You didn't answer my objection, you just offered me the common Xtian babble.

I've answered this question 10 times, and addressed it once in the OP. I thought it to be rhetorical

I am not one of your sheep. That shit doesn't work on a questioning individual.

appearently not. although one could argue that the only difference being, is that the supposed 'sheep' seem to read/listen and doesn't need to asked questions that have been answered this many times...

Either take back the part about God being blameless, or take back the part about prayer being futile.

Why?