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How would you know?
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RE: How would you know?
(August 7, 2012 at 6:58 am)Napoleon Wrote:
(August 5, 2012 at 9:18 am)spockrates Wrote: My thought: Heaven is nowhere described as a prison. Hell is described as a place, or state of existence where God is not present. The Bible claims Jesus is God. I'm thinking this place, or state of existence where Jesus went cannot be either heaven, or hell. What do you think, hypothetically speaking, of course.

I honestly don't see how this justifies putting faith in an entire belief of purgatory.

Seems pretty ridiculous.

At best, it hints that jesus went somewhere. Where exactly? It's not stated, it's referred to as 'prison'. Well that could really be anything, it could be a physical prison, it could be hell, it could even be another term for this earth.

How anyone can take this verse, and construe it so that it forms this very specific idea of purgatory is beyond me.

Oh, and do carry on, I'm sure the next verse will be more specific Wink


Agreed, Peter does not specifically mention Purgatory by name. However, he does appear to make it clear that he is not speaking about heaven, or hell. Can one make a good case that Peter was writing about heaven? I'm guessing no. For heaven is not portrayed as a prison. Can one make a strong case that he was writing of hell? I'm supposing one cannot. For hell is defined as an eternal separation from God. Were God to visit hell, wouldn't hell cease to be what it is? The upshot: There is something other than heaven, or hell after death, the Bible teaches.
"If you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains (no matter how improbable) must be the truth."

--Spock
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How would you know? - by Napoléon - August 1, 2012 at 6:44 pm
RE: How would you know? - by catfish - August 1, 2012 at 7:01 pm
RE: How would you know? - by Napoléon - August 1, 2012 at 7:04 pm
RE: How would you know? - by catfish - August 1, 2012 at 7:10 pm
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RE: How would you know? - by Cinjin - August 1, 2012 at 7:57 pm
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RE: How would you know? - by The Grand Nudger - August 1, 2012 at 7:02 pm
RE: How would you know? - by padraic - August 1, 2012 at 7:58 pm
RE: How would you know? - by The Grand Nudger - August 1, 2012 at 8:13 pm
RE: How would you know? - by Erinome - August 1, 2012 at 8:17 pm
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RE: How would you know? - by Drich - August 1, 2012 at 11:04 pm
RE: How would you know? - by Cinjin - August 1, 2012 at 11:11 pm
RE: How would you know? - by catfish - August 2, 2012 at 1:36 am
RE: How would you know? - by Drich - August 2, 2012 at 8:28 am
RE: How would you know? - by Napoléon - August 2, 2012 at 9:23 am
RE: How would you know? - by Drich - August 2, 2012 at 5:32 pm
RE: How would you know? - by Napoléon - August 3, 2012 at 8:32 am
RE: How would you know? - by Drich - August 3, 2012 at 2:14 pm
RE: How would you know? - by Napoléon - August 3, 2012 at 2:41 pm
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RE: How would you know? - by Faith No More - August 2, 2012 at 8:10 am
RE: How would you know? - by Napoléon - August 2, 2012 at 8:20 am
RE: How would you know? - by catfish - August 2, 2012 at 2:28 pm
RE: How would you know? - by Napoléon - August 2, 2012 at 3:56 pm
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RE: How would you know? - by padraic - August 2, 2012 at 8:16 pm
RE: How would you know? - by Napoléon - August 2, 2012 at 8:17 pm
RE: How would you know? - by spockrates - August 2, 2012 at 8:34 pm
RE: How would you know? - by Norfolk And Chance - August 2, 2012 at 8:56 pm
RE: How would you know? - by spockrates - August 3, 2012 at 6:48 am
RE: How would you know? - by Faith No More - August 2, 2012 at 8:59 pm
RE: How would you know? - by Cinjin - August 2, 2012 at 11:33 pm
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RE: How would you know? - by CliveStaples - August 7, 2012 at 2:45 am
RE: How would you know? - by Norfolk And Chance - August 3, 2012 at 7:41 am
RE: How would you know? - by Zen Badger - August 3, 2012 at 9:07 am
RE: How would you know? - by spockrates - August 4, 2012 at 8:11 am
RE: How would you know? - by Norfolk And Chance - August 4, 2012 at 9:13 am
RE: How would you know? - by spockrates - August 4, 2012 at 9:20 am
RE: How would you know? - by Napoléon - August 4, 2012 at 10:38 am
RE: How would you know? - by catfish - August 4, 2012 at 10:51 am
RE: How would you know? - by Napoléon - August 4, 2012 at 10:59 am
RE: How would you know? - by spockrates - August 4, 2012 at 12:49 pm
RE: How would you know? - by Napoléon - August 4, 2012 at 1:44 pm
RE: How would you know? - by spockrates - August 4, 2012 at 1:53 pm
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RE: How would you know? - by spockrates - August 5, 2012 at 9:08 am
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RE: How would you know? - by Napoléon - August 3, 2012 at 7:46 pm
RE: How would you know? - by The Grand Nudger - August 3, 2012 at 7:54 pm
RE: How would you know? - by Napoléon - August 3, 2012 at 7:57 pm
RE: How would you know? - by The Grand Nudger - August 3, 2012 at 8:39 pm
RE: How would you know? - by Napoléon - August 3, 2012 at 8:52 pm
RE: How would you know? - by padraic - August 3, 2012 at 8:55 pm
RE: How would you know? - by The Grand Nudger - August 4, 2012 at 9:53 am
RE: How would you know? - by The Grand Nudger - August 4, 2012 at 10:54 am
RE: How would you know? - by catfish - August 4, 2012 at 10:56 am
RE: How would you know? - by The Grand Nudger - August 4, 2012 at 11:01 am
RE: How would you know? - by catfish - August 4, 2012 at 11:07 am
RE: How would you know? - by The Grand Nudger - August 4, 2012 at 11:09 am
RE: How would you know? - by The Grand Nudger - August 5, 2012 at 9:15 am
RE: How would you know? - by spockrates - August 5, 2012 at 9:18 am
RE: How would you know? - by Napoléon - August 7, 2012 at 6:58 am
RE: How would you know? - by spockrates - August 7, 2012 at 7:28 am
RE: How would you know? - by CliveStaples - August 9, 2012 at 5:54 pm
RE: How would you know? - by Napoléon - August 9, 2012 at 6:21 pm
RE: How would you know? - by Napoléon - August 5, 2012 at 9:16 am
RE: How would you know? - by spockrates - August 7, 2012 at 6:01 am
RE: How would you know? - by spockrates - August 7, 2012 at 8:56 am
RE: How would you know? - by Napoléon - August 7, 2012 at 3:43 pm
RE: How would you know? - by spockrates - August 8, 2012 at 9:39 am
RE: How would you know? - by Napoléon - August 8, 2012 at 10:11 am
RE: How would you know? - by spockrates - August 8, 2012 at 10:13 am
RE: How would you know? - by catfish - August 8, 2012 at 10:15 am
RE: How would you know? - by spockrates - August 8, 2012 at 10:20 am
RE: How would you know? - by jonb - August 8, 2012 at 10:38 am
RE: How would you know? - by Napoléon - August 8, 2012 at 1:07 pm
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RE: How would you know? - by padraic - August 8, 2012 at 8:27 pm
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RE: How would you know? - by MountOlympus - August 8, 2012 at 8:45 pm
RE: How would you know? - by Napoléon - August 9, 2012 at 8:04 am
RE: How would you know? - by jonb - August 8, 2012 at 8:58 pm
RE: How would you know? - by padraic - August 8, 2012 at 11:33 pm
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