RE: Prayer?
August 10, 2012 at 12:00 pm
(This post was last modified: August 10, 2012 at 12:02 pm by Cyberman.)
(August 10, 2012 at 12:54 am)Lion IRC Wrote: I dont accept your assertion that all those praying are asking God for the same thing.
Many MIGHT be praying for God to bring her back from the dead.
Some might be praying for God to turn back time.
Some might be praying that her body be found and bring closure to the parents.
Others might be praying that a suspect is captured.
Some might be praying that she is in a safe and happy place.
Dont go getting all precious asking me for a direct answer to your oblique, rhetorical, and (if you dont mind me saying) insensitive question.
The person responsible for the fact that girl is missing is the criminal who did it. Your lame accusation against God and Christian prayer groups is tantamount to also asking the law enforcement agencies ''...why is she still missing?''
I don't accept your assertion that even though many people might indeed be praying for those things, none of them have been praying for the girl to be found safe and well; the most natural of the human reactions to such tragedic circumstances. Don't you dare tell me how to respond to a continual smokescreen thrown up by an insensitive, oblique and (if you don't mind me saying) morally bankrupt arsehole.
You were the one bleating about how ironic it was that atheists were the ones complaining about the lack of answers to prayers. Even given your, quite frankly, Olympic-standard athletics to avoid addressing the question in an honest and direct fashion, the fact still remains that none of the prayers, whatever their motivation, have been answered. If police do manage to turn up evidence of Madeleine's fate tomorrow, would you consider that evidence of answered prayer? Or would it be yet more evidence that human actions score over anything that a supposedly interventionist god has ever done (which is nothing)?
Asking the police forces why she is still missing would yield the obvious answer of "because she has not yet been found." This is because, as has been hammered into your skull already, police agencies are not generally held to be omni-everything. This alleged god, even and especially if it exists, has no such excuse.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'