Prayer?

[Thor]

My arguement is weak?

Yup.

Did you read yours?!?!?

Yaeh, I did. What do you think I wrote?

"Because we can't Feed everyone, due to war or political posturing (again a issue with man not God) we/I won't feed anyone! and blame the whole mess and our/my laziness on God."

And where the hell did I say this?!?!?!?!?

I didn't say "Because we can't feed everyone, ....we/I won't feed anyone!" I said, "In MOST cases kids are starving because of corrupt governments who use food as a weapon. We couldn't feed the kids no matter how much we want to or try." This was in response to your lame-ass reponse that we are somehow at fault because kids are starving. My point was that we CAN'T help most of these kids because of corrupt governments, war and the like. But I see that escaped you.

There is no "laziness" on our part. There are many organizations and donors who try to help starving kids. Unfortunately, being HUMAN, we can only do so much. YOUR DEITY, however, being all powerful and omnipotent, could feed these starving kids without even putting down his Mai Tai. But he chooses not to. And you think this being is worthy of worship?

Yeah that arguement is much better since you supposedly do not believe in God,

Correct, I am quite certain your deity is as real as all the other deities mankind has worshiped over the centuries.

meaning that their won't be any help till you offered it anyway.

Right. There is no help coming from an invisible man in the sky. We have to do it on our own.

Way to think that one through.

Way to misrepresent what I say.

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Un belief is not a crime it is a choice. People Choose to be with God or seperated from Him.

Unbelief is NOT "a choice"! It is a reasonable conclusion based upon the evidence. Am I expected to throw away my intellect and reasoning abilities when it comes to fantastical tales about unproven deities? Why is that? I can no more "Choose to believe" your deity is real any more than I could "choose to believe" that the sun orbits the Earth.

And even if I decided to delude myself and proclaim "I believe!", your deity would know I'm faking it (being omnipotent and all). So, you're wrong about not believing being "a choice".

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Suppose God feeds every hungry person in the world. What are we (you and me) likely to do? Well, stop working of course!

What?

Where are you getting this crap? Why would I stop working if your deity feeds all the hungry people in the world? You're missing a very important point here... I was talking about STARVING people (NOT the same as "hungry people") and I was talking about people who are incapable of feeding themselves. In fact, I specifically said "kids"! If your deity suddenly provided food to all the starving people on the planet I would still have to work. I'm sure your deity won't be paying my electric bill or making my mortgage payment.

If God will intervene and supply my every need, why must I do anything?

Who the hell said anything about your deity "supplying my every need"? Stop putting words in my mouth!

Let Him care for us hand and foot.

Never said this either.

Are you going to address what I actually said or just make shit up?

In the meantime, we are turning into selfish monsters who won't do anything for others because we aren't doing anything for ourselves. God wants to inspire love in us, and that is one good product of suffering. Now if you want to allow a clause like "God will only feed those who cannot help their situation", then consider who could help them--other people. Or to put it another way, who could step in and prevent people from getting food. At some point you infringe upon free will. If I want to lock someone in a dungeon, who is God to magically place bread in that dungeon? How dare he interfere with my life! And presto--half the world still hates God.

And here you just make conclusions based on shit I never said! Do you have a reading disability?

Finally I ask, to what extent should God get involved?

Well.... considering that there is no evidence your deity EVER "gets involved", this is a rather moot point.