RE: Prayer?
August 13, 2012 at 12:19 pm
(This post was last modified: August 13, 2012 at 12:21 pm by Undeceived.)
(August 13, 2012 at 10:40 am)Rhythm Wrote:Thank you for agreeing. RD was arguing that people would continue to innovate in the face of all their necessities being provided for. I was not the first to insinuate that as a bad thing, but it seems he did, else he wouldn't have opposed my theory of all of us quitting work.(August 13, 2012 at 1:42 am)Undeceived Wrote: Then why innovate? Doesn’t all innovation have survival at its core? If medicine is no longer an innovation, but a necessity, wouldn’t we live forever under God’s placating hand? We'd never die. Well that's what the Garden of Eden used to be like. We messed up by sinning, and now death is our punishment. Or should people still die in this utopia of yours? Say, after a couple hundred years. What if someone wants to die earlier or later? At what point should God take these people? No matter how He does it, He will cause grief—either in the individual or in his/her family.There is no need to look any further into anything because all necessities have been met (and almost miraculously human beings are no longer curious and we have abandoned our habitual tinkering for tinkering's sake). So? No, seriously..... so fucking what? Here you are insinuating that this is somehow a bad thing -and yet you would like to casually insert your imaginary friend as the sole provider of such a service nevertheless.
But let's get back to the topic. I claimed people would not innovate if all necessities were provided. If not health, what do people innovate for? Discovery? Pleasure? Both are self-serving. Unless that's your point--you want a world of all pleasure but no earning or gratitude for that pleasure. A world in which God serves you but you do not serve Him. Am I correct?
Quote:yet you would like to casually insert your imaginary friend as the sole provider of such a service nevertheless.This discussion is about God and why He might not provide for our every need. If you had read all the comments you would have known we were talking about what a benevolent God would or would not do. This is not a proof. It is an attempt to show that, if there was a God, He has reasons for "keeping us in suffering," as vague as that phrase is. Rhythm, do you consider the Christian God wrong to allow a dystopian world? Or will you plead the fifth and refuse to even engage the topic on an assumption that all gods are "imaginary friends"?


