Prayer?

[Drich]

Does it now? At this point, even if I followed said plan and it failed, you would tell me that it didn't fail and I simply don't understand why it succeeded.

This is a promise of God, it will not fail. That said one does not have to accept or believe what He has been given, but it will not fail. Not if you hold up to your end of the deal.

As I should be!!
I don't have the power to end world hunger.

Yes you do. one meal at a time. one hour at a time. You simply choose not to.

I don't have the power to solve violence issues amongst warring clans or religious factions.

There are millions starving in this country especially given this economy. What have you done to alieviate their needs or suffering?

So because you can not Magically (like a wizard) cure all the world problems you want nothing to do with them?

I don't have the power to make any significant contribution to the world that would change the way people think of violence and physical needs.
Guess who does?

You do, and the millions like you who do nothing but blame others for their inactivity.

I enjoy the sentiment, but you would be better served to spend you time doing anything else. You are fun to speak with, for sure, but if your goal is the betterment of mankind your time can be better spent. That's all I'll say on that.

thankfully I am not looking to better mankind. I am looking to simply provide biblical answers people like you may have about God.

70 years? What delusion are you suffering through?

Physical Suffering comes in many forms outside the pictures found on the internet. there are many who live to be 70 or 80 and have endured more carried more for longer than someone who's body gives out shortly after they fall to need. Spend some time at a homeless shelter, or soup kitchen, or a rehab/recovery center or a nursing home. Places the would not yield pictures that would imeidately benfit someone looking to force a judgement about God.

The needy live for ten years, 4 years, sometimes to their older 20's. Those are the people I am talking about.

these people see mercy. for there are fates much worse than death.

I could care less what your unevidenced imaginary friend has to say on the matter. If he exists I owe no allegiance to him, for he is an asshole. Luckily for me, the chance that he exists is negligible because the lack of evidence is a resounding feature of modern apologetics.

Again, we all have the ablity to seek proof directly from God. placing the 'burden of proof' on the indivisuals who know of God.

I can't say this for everyone, but I don't come here to wallow in my own non-belief. I come here to spend time with like-minded individuals, to envelop myself in a community that I would otherwise be devoid of.

..Which is different from 'wallowing' how?

I live in the Bible belt. Do you think I would be able to sit down with others who ditched their mysticism anywhere around here? It is important for people to spend time with others who share their sentiments, and this site allows people an outlet to do just that.

agreed

If everyone in the world felt that they ought to live by the great book of Unicornism and it was causing problems in society and on the personal level, would you let it go?

i guess it depended on the soceity. how is it you just assume 'soceity' is always right? (Good thing you did not live in 1930's/40's Germany.)

Bullshit. Calling religion a pile of crap is a uniquely stimulating practice due to the fact that there are those who actually believe that shit. The fact that it does more harm than good everywhere in the world is just another factor, while the casuals through the forums reading posts are another. People who don't really know whether or not they believe will reach out for evidence and maybe a community. What could be better than offering them a place where there are nearly 90% atheists and only about 2% religious adherents? What better place to discuss the troubles religion is causing at the moment?

again how is this not wallowing in what you believe? To me it simply sounds like you do not like being catorgrized so matter of factly, but can not offer any legitment reason to refute this classification.

Your interpretation, you mean? Nobody can come on this site and preach your interpretation? You're right. Nobody but you. Others would clutter the waters and make real truth difficult to obtain. Their tenuous interpretation would make the message watery and weak, huh?

My, 'truth' is as valid as any other christ/bible centered truth. There isn't any specific version we must obtain. (read my thread on Why there are so many denominations) What i was refering to is the number of well meaning brothers who come here are easily offended and move on. Or those who quickly get bann. Or those who get suckered into argueing point of pride or personal philosphy rather than sticking to repersenting the bible or God. The specific brand of Christ centered truth is of little concern to me or God.

*BTW we're not "anti-God".

You do not speak for everyone, some are and have admited as much in their personal tags or sigs.

Did they logically prove that God exists in some fashion, or did they just tutor you on the most efficient ways to delude yourself into believing in God?

Begging the question.

Proof wasn't offered to me, and won't ever be.

The process is outlined in Luke 11, and I know it was offered because I did so in this post and the last.

If I ask god for proof and he doesn't answer me, knowing full well that I would end up and atheist who forfeits all other attempts to contact him, why didn't he help me at 14 when I needed it the most?

Again you have not lived long enough to know what God has offered.

I think I missed this part. I can get him to answer me?

Allow me to correct you. You can not get the answer you have been looking for.

Tell me again, in summary, how to do this?

Ask Seek and Knock for the Holy Spirit (which provides proof) as outlined in Luke11.

Your cherry-picked variant is no better than anyone elses, unless, as you claim, I can actually get an answer from your God, in which case you ought to submit the method to be scientifically verified as this would surely save many lost souls.

It has been submitted, and dismissed because seemingly most are not brave enough or rather too proud to commit/submit to the process, and if by chance one is. then his 'proof' is dismissed because he no longer agrees with those who say God does not exist.