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Why was the crucifixion necessary ?
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RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ?
(August 18, 2012 at 5:14 pm)Undeceived Wrote: I believe so. Any execution would have worked--the point is that Jesus had to be sentenced and die for a crime he did not commit.

Why ?

(August 18, 2012 at 5:14 pm)Undeceived Wrote: IBeing wrongfully condemned tends to invoke stronger emotions than an unfortunate accident. Why do you think that is?

Agreed. Miscarriages of justice do invoke strong emotions. For instance I was moved to write to my MP about the Bridgewater Four - a famous example of wrongful conviction which cost the men years of their life and one of them died in prison. But I don't think any of them are god.

(August 18, 2012 at 5:14 pm)Undeceived Wrote: Crucifixion has the added element of torture to impress on us,

Theatre ?

(August 18, 2012 at 5:14 pm)Undeceived Wrote: It also shows Christ's love--one half of the reason Jesus died is to redeem us, the other half is so we might realize love and put it into practice in our own lives.

Explain exactly how god/jesus dying redeems us ?

Surely Jesus did not die, but only the human body he was occupying (is it possible to kill god ?). Moreover he knew he wasn't going to die.

Regards

Grimesy

(August 18, 2012 at 9:45 am)Ace Otana Wrote:
(August 15, 2012 at 7:15 am)pgrimes15 Wrote: I asked why there had to be a crucifixion.

A better question - what did Jesus sacrifice?

I tried to address this issue in a previous thread
http://atheistforums.org/thread-14283.html

Regards

Grimesy
Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful. — Edward Gibbon

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Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by pgrimes15 - August 15, 2012 at 7:15 am
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Gambit - August 15, 2012 at 7:45 am
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by LastPoet - August 15, 2012 at 9:06 am
Re: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by NoraBrimstone - August 15, 2012 at 9:48 am
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Kayenneh - August 15, 2012 at 10:45 am
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by pgrimes15 - August 16, 2012 at 5:50 am
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Jackalope - August 16, 2012 at 8:59 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by pgrimes15 - August 17, 2012 at 7:06 am
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by CliveStaples - August 15, 2012 at 11:34 am
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Minimalist - August 15, 2012 at 11:46 am
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by MountOlympus - August 15, 2012 at 12:04 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Drich - August 15, 2012 at 12:56 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by downbeatplumb - August 15, 2012 at 1:08 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Minimalist - August 15, 2012 at 2:15 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Gambit - August 15, 2012 at 2:32 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Drich - August 16, 2012 at 8:20 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by cratehorus - August 16, 2012 at 8:43 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by pgrimes15 - August 17, 2012 at 7:25 am
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by catfish - August 15, 2012 at 8:05 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Minimalist - August 16, 2012 at 7:49 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by padraic - August 16, 2012 at 9:19 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by KichigaiNeko - August 17, 2012 at 7:15 am
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Drich - August 18, 2012 at 9:13 am
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by pgrimes15 - August 18, 2012 at 9:51 am
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Undeceived - August 18, 2012 at 5:14 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by pgrimes15 - August 18, 2012 at 11:16 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Undeceived - August 19, 2012 at 3:56 am
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Cato - August 19, 2012 at 4:45 am
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by pgrimes15 - August 19, 2012 at 8:51 am
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Drich - August 19, 2012 at 11:41 am
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Whateverist - August 19, 2012 at 11:51 am
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by pgrimes15 - August 20, 2012 at 9:13 am
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Drich - August 20, 2012 at 9:42 am
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by pgrimes15 - August 20, 2012 at 2:11 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Drich - August 21, 2012 at 2:54 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Jackalope - August 21, 2012 at 2:56 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by pocaracas - August 20, 2012 at 5:24 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Godschild - August 21, 2012 at 6:27 am
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by pocaracas - August 21, 2012 at 12:25 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Drich - August 21, 2012 at 3:28 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Whateverist - August 21, 2012 at 12:26 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Drich - August 21, 2012 at 3:23 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by pocaracas - August 21, 2012 at 7:34 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Drich - August 21, 2012 at 11:51 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by pocaracas - August 22, 2012 at 7:24 am
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Drich - August 22, 2012 at 9:27 am
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by pocaracas - August 22, 2012 at 1:08 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Ace Otana - August 18, 2012 at 9:45 am
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Minimalist - August 18, 2012 at 5:27 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Undeceived - August 18, 2012 at 5:51 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Minimalist - August 18, 2012 at 6:27 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Faith No More - August 19, 2012 at 9:24 am
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Whateverist - August 19, 2012 at 11:11 am
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Faith No More - August 19, 2012 at 11:52 am
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Drich - August 19, 2012 at 1:21 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Drich - August 19, 2012 at 1:44 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Faith No More - August 19, 2012 at 1:38 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Drich - August 19, 2012 at 1:45 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Minimalist - August 19, 2012 at 1:44 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Faith No More - August 19, 2012 at 2:00 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Drich - August 19, 2012 at 2:16 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Drich - August 19, 2012 at 11:28 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Faith No More - August 19, 2012 at 2:25 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Minimalist - August 20, 2012 at 12:23 am
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Faith No More - August 20, 2012 at 12:40 am
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Faith No More - August 20, 2012 at 9:15 am
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Drich - August 20, 2012 at 9:51 am
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Drich - August 20, 2012 at 10:08 am
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Minimalist - August 20, 2012 at 2:13 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Drich - August 21, 2012 at 2:57 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Jackalope - August 21, 2012 at 2:59 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Minimalist - August 21, 2012 at 3:27 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Drich - August 21, 2012 at 3:36 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Tobie - August 21, 2012 at 3:45 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Drich - August 21, 2012 at 5:33 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Jackalope - August 21, 2012 at 3:49 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Drich - August 21, 2012 at 5:48 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Faith No More - August 20, 2012 at 5:20 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Minimalist - August 20, 2012 at 5:49 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Drich - August 21, 2012 at 5:51 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Minimalist - August 21, 2012 at 7:46 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Minimalist - August 22, 2012 at 12:47 am

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