(August 20, 2012 at 4:30 pm)Ryantology Wrote: If all we do is part of god's "Master Plan", then by definition, anything we do is what God wanted us to do. Hell could only, by definition, be part of god's Master Plan, which would be in line with Calvin's predestination. We would therefore be punished for doing exactly what we were supposed to do, because we cannot act contrary to the Master Plan, else we would introduce a paradox.
So, if the Master Plan allows for us to make real and essentially random choices when they present themselves to us, it is either a plan with obvious flaws which we are punished for acting upon, or else we are deluded by believing we have legitimately free will.
Wow! did you know after 26 pages you are the first to bring this up?
Of course your not. (It's like you guys are al programed to think the same way.) How was this arguement defeated the 1/2 a dozen times before??? Your going to have to go back and read. or simply present "God's plan."