Prayer?

[Drich]

That was my justification for making my argument, not an argument for its validity.

however you wish to justify it your 'justification' was still an arguement from ignorance. primarly because it excluded 26 pages of texts, and did not consider anything that had been previously stated.

So, he intentionally devises the capacity for people to fail. He made man flawed, on purpose, and then puts them through torture if they can't overcome the hardships he inflicted.

Then explain attonement.

You'd institutionalize a person who attempted that.

we'd instutionalize anyone who thought himself to be or too the role of God upon himself.. Except God.
(Not to say some of you would not try)

Being free to fuck up and make up for it is not freedom at all. It's sadism.

one man's sadism...

Even if held to the concept of free will as you described it, God comes away looking like a terribly evil fantasy monster who inspires Stockholm Syndrome in his victims. It really doesn't matter how you define God's Plan or 'free will'. God never comes away from this looking plausible and always comes away as a being you could only ever want to worship out of terror.

how so please take the time to explain.