Why was the crucifixion necessary ?

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I can present you with a book that claims that three little pigs can build houses. "it is written". Does that make it true? does that make it real? can you understand the difference between these two concepts?

But I asked you to be recursive.... Someone wrote whatever is on the bible. How did that person come to have that knowledge?

Holy Spirit inspired the account.

Sorry for being stupid, but I fail to see how that knowledge came to be in the possession of a human being.

God authored the passage, through the pen of Paul's scribe.

So, some guy writes a story. Claims he was inspired to write it by the very same being about which he's writing...
And you believe both the claim and the story.

Can you imagine anyone doing that nowadays? What would be the outcome?
Would people believe it? or would they just dismiss it as nonsense?
Why shouldn't we dismiss that thousands of years old story as just such nonsense?

Besides, if god did inspire one guy to write such stories, what keeps him from inspiring all people? Why should we all lesser humans believe this one guy's inspiration? Sounds mighty suspicious, to me.

It is written? oh, yeah.... not buying it, remember?

so?
You are asking Questions about God that are based on what the bible says. you can not choose to then ignore the same bible when the answers you seek, are based on the bible you orginally asked your questions from.

well you can, but your 'logic' will be deemed fallacious, and therefore dismissed as an invalid arguement. eitherway this line of reasoning you have presented is at an end... Hence my orginal response. So?

My questions about god are more about why would anyone believe that such a being exists. It makes no sense, to me.
But believers never make sense...

How is it that anyone ever came to know that?

How does anyone know anything about God?
God told them. Or God Inspired the account.

Was it written before anyone wrote it?!

Maybe you can ask God that one, yourself.

I've been waiting for him to show up for quite a while, but I still get nothing...

soooo.... some options are always good:
- If I believe there is a hell, I choose to steer clear of it.
- If I know there is a hell, I choose to steer clear of it.

Actually no. Not all who know of Hell steer clear of it.

- If I don't believe there is a hell, I don't choose anything.- If I don't know there is a hell, I don't choose anything.

Choosing nothing is Choosing Hell/eternal seperation from God..

Eternal separation from god.
Why would that be so bad?

How is knowledge different from belief, here?

You answer that in you next sentence. In that one can choose to dismiss simple belief.

Of course, I refuse to believe, so I could only be lead to steer clear of hell by knowing about it.

Why? as a matter of self perservation or because you will somehow begin to love God?

Aye, self-preservation.
I can't love some guy who can put an end to soooo much misery around the world, but just doesn't.

I cannot choose to believe. I refuse to believe in the existence of the super-natural. My mind doesn't allow such nonsense.

Simple belief is not the goal. Love is. One must Love the Lord God with all their Heart, Mind, Spirit, and Strength. The demons 'believe' and it means nothing to God.

The demons... I believe they exist as much as your god does.
Human hierarchy had to trickle down to the book being written by humans and for humans. As with all stories, there must be a good guy with which the audience is supposed to associate, and the bad guy which is the antagonist. The darth vader for Luke, the nazis for Indiana Jones, etc, etc
The wolf for the 3 little pigs.

Some species are born and associate the first living thing they see with their mothers. If there is love in there or not, I don't know.... If there is love in a days old baby, I don't know. Do you know?

Yes, for the love required is defined. Not as a 'feeling or a strong desire' but as an all encompassing devotion. In the greek there are 4 words that simply translate into the word' love' in the english. You only seem to associeate greek word "Eros" with Love. (passion or strong feeling) What God is looking for is Agape'. This love is an effort or a choice. even if a young child does not know his Mother as His mother he still chooses to bond with her with all that he is, and as such qualifies as Agape' (or simply 'Love' in the english.)

Call it what you (and whoever came up with those terms) want, but it's just "enjoy a concept".
I agape math.