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Why was the crucifixion necessary ?
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RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ?
(August 22, 2012 at 9:27 am)Drich Wrote: what you guys either dissmiss or simply do not understand is with in that bible there are promises God makes through the words of the men who penned the bible, to each and everyone who follows the path of the believer. what makes the bible crediable is not what these men wrote 2000 years ago but the fact that each indivisual can test or hold God to the promises made.

The fact that God is full filling these promises 2000+ years after the accounts were first penned.

each individual can attest or hold god to the promises made.... promises fulfilled?
What? where? which? I'm curious...

(August 22, 2012 at 9:27 am)Drich Wrote:
Quote:Besides, if god did inspire one guy to write such stories, what keeps him from inspiring all people?
No one guy wrote the bible. Several did.
ok then... several guys came up with the idea... Have you seen the number of people involved in making one movie? It boils down to the same. Why didn't this god inspire everyone equally? Why were those bronze age writers any better than you or me?


(August 22, 2012 at 9:27 am)Drich Wrote:
Quote: Why should we all lesser humans believe this one guy's inspiration? Sounds mighty suspicious, to me.
One man several it does not really matter. What does is the account can be verified.
Oh it can?
How can there be any other religion on this Earth, then? If that one account is completely verifiable. How can there be atheists?

(August 22, 2012 at 9:27 am)Drich Wrote:
Quote:My questions about god are more about why would anyone believe that such a being exists.
Because per said promises God has revealed Himself to the believer.
That's what I call circular logic.
If you believe there is a god, he is reveals himself to you. From my POV, if you believe, no god is required to reveal himself.... your own mind can do that job. How can you tell if he did reveal himself to you, or if it's your mind playing tricks on you?

(August 22, 2012 at 9:27 am)Drich Wrote:
Quote:I've been waiting for him to show up for quite a while, but I still get nothing...
God (according to scripture) does not show up uninvited. so my question is did you invite Him?
Sure. I wrote him an invitation and sent it via santa in the north pole.... somehow, the postman knows where to find santa. My guess is that santa can find god. He never replied.

(August 22, 2012 at 9:27 am)Drich Wrote:
Quote:Aye, self-preservation.
I can't love some guy who can put an end to soooo much misery around the world, but just doesn't.
Again not everyone can. Some feel the need to judge God based on their own standard of righteousness, over looking their own short falls to scratch and claw their way to their own sense of moral high ground, just so a judgement can be levied against God theirby justifying their life's desisions. For people who dismiss God's righteousness for their own.. It is next to impossiable for them to Love God.
I judge your god by the standard of righteousness which he is claimed to us on humans..... Thou shal not kill (or, by omission, allow to be killed, aka being an accomplice) Tongue

(August 22, 2012 at 9:27 am)Drich Wrote:
Quote:Call it what you (and whoever came up with those terms)
The Greeks, 'Came up with those terms.' This is important because the New Testament was written in Greek. So to understand the greek is to better to understand what is written.

new testament?
I was under the slight impression that the concept of god had been around for a few millenia by the time the NT was penned in greek.
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Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by pgrimes15 - August 15, 2012 at 7:15 am
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Gambit - August 15, 2012 at 7:45 am
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by LastPoet - August 15, 2012 at 9:06 am
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RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Kayenneh - August 15, 2012 at 10:45 am
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by pgrimes15 - August 16, 2012 at 5:50 am
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Jackalope - August 16, 2012 at 8:59 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by pgrimes15 - August 17, 2012 at 7:06 am
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by CliveStaples - August 15, 2012 at 11:34 am
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Minimalist - August 15, 2012 at 11:46 am
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by MountOlympus - August 15, 2012 at 12:04 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Drich - August 15, 2012 at 12:56 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by downbeatplumb - August 15, 2012 at 1:08 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Minimalist - August 15, 2012 at 2:15 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Gambit - August 15, 2012 at 2:32 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Drich - August 16, 2012 at 8:20 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by cratehorus - August 16, 2012 at 8:43 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by pgrimes15 - August 17, 2012 at 7:25 am
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by catfish - August 15, 2012 at 8:05 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Minimalist - August 16, 2012 at 7:49 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by padraic - August 16, 2012 at 9:19 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by KichigaiNeko - August 17, 2012 at 7:15 am
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Drich - August 18, 2012 at 9:13 am
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by pgrimes15 - August 18, 2012 at 9:51 am
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Undeceived - August 18, 2012 at 5:14 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by pgrimes15 - August 18, 2012 at 11:16 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Undeceived - August 19, 2012 at 3:56 am
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Cato - August 19, 2012 at 4:45 am
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by pgrimes15 - August 19, 2012 at 8:51 am
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Drich - August 19, 2012 at 11:41 am
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Whateverist - August 19, 2012 at 11:51 am
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by pgrimes15 - August 20, 2012 at 9:13 am
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Drich - August 20, 2012 at 9:42 am
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by pgrimes15 - August 20, 2012 at 2:11 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Drich - August 21, 2012 at 2:54 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Jackalope - August 21, 2012 at 2:56 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by pocaracas - August 20, 2012 at 5:24 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Godschild - August 21, 2012 at 6:27 am
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by pocaracas - August 21, 2012 at 12:25 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Drich - August 21, 2012 at 3:28 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Whateverist - August 21, 2012 at 12:26 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Drich - August 21, 2012 at 3:23 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by pocaracas - August 21, 2012 at 7:34 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Drich - August 21, 2012 at 11:51 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by pocaracas - August 22, 2012 at 7:24 am
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Drich - August 22, 2012 at 9:27 am
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by pocaracas - August 22, 2012 at 1:08 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Ace Otana - August 18, 2012 at 9:45 am
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Minimalist - August 18, 2012 at 5:27 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Undeceived - August 18, 2012 at 5:51 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Minimalist - August 18, 2012 at 6:27 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Faith No More - August 19, 2012 at 9:24 am
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Whateverist - August 19, 2012 at 11:11 am
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Faith No More - August 19, 2012 at 11:52 am
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Drich - August 19, 2012 at 1:21 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Drich - August 19, 2012 at 1:44 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Faith No More - August 19, 2012 at 1:38 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Drich - August 19, 2012 at 1:45 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Minimalist - August 19, 2012 at 1:44 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Faith No More - August 19, 2012 at 2:00 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Drich - August 19, 2012 at 2:16 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Drich - August 19, 2012 at 11:28 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Faith No More - August 19, 2012 at 2:25 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Minimalist - August 20, 2012 at 12:23 am
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Faith No More - August 20, 2012 at 12:40 am
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Faith No More - August 20, 2012 at 9:15 am
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Drich - August 20, 2012 at 9:51 am
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Drich - August 20, 2012 at 10:08 am
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Minimalist - August 20, 2012 at 2:13 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Drich - August 21, 2012 at 2:57 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Jackalope - August 21, 2012 at 2:59 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Minimalist - August 21, 2012 at 3:27 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Drich - August 21, 2012 at 3:36 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Tobie - August 21, 2012 at 3:45 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Drich - August 21, 2012 at 5:33 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Jackalope - August 21, 2012 at 3:49 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Drich - August 21, 2012 at 5:48 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Faith No More - August 20, 2012 at 5:20 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Minimalist - August 20, 2012 at 5:49 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Drich - August 21, 2012 at 5:51 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Minimalist - August 21, 2012 at 7:46 pm
RE: Why was the crucifixion necessary ? - by Minimalist - August 22, 2012 at 12:47 am

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