RE: Simple mental exercise to show the irrationality of the Christian God.
August 23, 2012 at 11:15 pm
(August 23, 2012 at 4:05 pm)ThomM Wrote: The bible says God is all loving.Book Chapter and verse?
Quote:Anyone who had read the Old Testament and then claims that the bible says the god is all loving does not know the meaning of the word "love"Please define.
Quote:It is easy to dismiss the god of the bible - for another reason though - the bible does say that "NOTHING is impossible with god" (Luke 1:37)There are three words in the Orginal Greek that are simply translated into the word "NOTHING" in the english text.
οὐ (ou)
1) no, not; in direct questions expecting an affirmative answer
πᾶς (pas) 1) individually
a) each, every, any, all, the whole, everyone, all things, everything
2) collectively
a) some of all types
The two words above describe (NOTHING) as you understand the word to mean, but there are three words here the last being:
ῥῆμα (rhēma)
1) that which is or has been uttered by the living voice, thing spoken, word
a) any sound produced by the voice and having definite meaning
b) speech, discourse
1) what one has said
c) a series of words joined together into a sentence (a declaration of one's mind made in words)
1) an utterance
2) a saying of any sort as a message, a narrative
a) concerning some occurrence
2) subject matter of speech, thing spoken of
a) so far forth as it is a matter of narration
b) so far as it is a matter of command
c) a matter of dispute, case at law
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm...JV#conc/37
In context "The Phrase: Nothing impossiable with the God" refers to a promise or message made to an indivisual even though the full fillment of said promise/message looked to be impossiable.
what promise you ask?? All you have to do is put that quote back into it's orginal context to figure out what was not Specifically impossiable for God.
Luke1:35 And the angel answered and said to her, “The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Highest will overshadow you; therefore, also, that Holy One who is to be born will be called the Son of God. 36 Now indeed, Elizabeth your relative has also conceived a son in her old age; and this is now the sixth month for her who was called barren. 37 For with God nothing will be impossible.”
The underlined portion is all one quote. As you will note this is where you butchered/cherry picked the material you used for your straw man.
Quote:However - that CANNOT be true - the ability to do or be one thing DOES often prevent a being from being or doing the opposite. For example - can a god create a disease it cannot cure?Dismissed as fallacious reasoning, based on an incorrect repersentation of God, and the passage you used in luke 1.
Can a god simultaneously be the largest and smallest object.?
However -= today WE are doing something with a power that the god of the bible cannot have as defined. THe god is defined as all knowing
Today - I am posting on this forum - something I had NO knowledge would even be possible 40 years ago. Others have the same power of doing something of which they had NO prior knowledge.
Tell me - what can an ALL knowing god do - that it had no prior knowledge of?