Girls! Show your contempt for religion -Have butt sex!

[Violet]

OK, this is uncharted water for me but I'm slowly getting the picture. Violet and Tara are transvestites (I'd rather not use "trans" since someone on another thread took issue with me for calling Japanese Japs).

Someone shoot me now. In the face.

With a fucking cannon.

There is a massive difference between transsexual and transvestites. Transvestites are, for the most part, limited to crossdressing. (For purposes of this explanation, I will be using the traditionally understood male transvestite and yes, there are transvestites among both men and women.) A (male) transvestite is usually understood to be a crossdesser who feels better/more relaxed/(sometimes aroused) wearing women's clothing. They still identify as a guy... an example of your average garden transvestite is a Drag Queen)

A transsexual, on the other hand, is a person whose expressed/experienced gender is not reflected by their sex. Example... I am a woman (clearly?), though my body was born with the male sex. Hence, I have a penis, and many of the secondary sexual characteristics that testosterone causes.

(transsexual is interchangeable with transgendered)

There are transgendered women, just as there are transgendered men (men born with the female sex and shit like breasts... and no penis). Calling any of us transvestites? That's just a little painful, but I know you meant no disrespect

If you avatars are really your pics, I must say you both look absolutely female.

No kidding? Want to see my cock before you go throwing around those "absolutes"? /jest

The surgery you are talking about must be a surgery to change a boy into a girl physically.

??????

That doesn't make any sense. I mean, I understand it's an ultrasimplified way of saying it... but it's precisely because of such that it becomes incorrect. Links to study!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_reassig...-to-female
^List of various surgies, and a general idea of what they entail, with further links for the interested within.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_reassig...le-to-male
^Same for transmen, unfortunately: the genital surgeries available are simply not comparable to those that transwomen have (it's harder to make a penis than a vagina... luckily the clitoral enlargement from HRT helps a little... it's just that... a little.)

My advice is not to do it.

That's cool, would you like some fries with that? Not to be snappy, but most what you'll do with giving people your advice all the time is to irritate them/piss them off/wear them down.

You can't be sure if you won't change your mind in a couple of years.

Haven't 'changed my mind' once since I was 13 and it finally sunk in, as I lay in bed with my best friend and lover. As far as I can tell, I've always been a woman... just what is it I could be changing here? I didn't realize this was a choice... suffer like this for the rest of my life or enjoy being free of the fucking penis.

Seriously... I care more to remove this thing forcibly (by knife no less) than to get a vagina. The vagina would be bonus, and pleasurable genitals is something I shudder to think the world at large would love to be without.

I know a boy who was a trans when he was very young and then very recently, he became like a regular boy and he even played rugby.

For all you know, they are still a woman. I know a transwoman who was once a boxer, I know transwomen who were once wrestlers, I know a transwoman who was once an offensive linebacker in handegg. I know a transman who was once a soccer player, and who was also once in the army. By no means is someone playing a sport any indication of their gender. By no means is someone necessarily a 'regular boy' simply because they've decided to act that way in public until they are ready to transition proper (bullying is often responsible... and who would try to bully a rugby player? ).

That said, yes: it is possible that they are a guy... when puberty kicks in for the first time, many things change. Peaceful kids get aggo, panicky kids chill out, and some stay exactly the same... a really handy tool for transpeople is Hormone Replacement Therapy, entirely because you are experiencing a second puberty. My first puberty was hell to me... I got facial hair, my body hair went crazy, my voice dropped, my adams apple bulged out, my balls dropped, and I was in general miserable.

We're all growing, whatever age we may be. What we are today won't be the same as what we will be in a few years.

I'm a little confused about TaraJo. I thought I read in another thread that she said she was interested in a girl. I thought she even said she had a girlfriend. So I thought she was a lesbian. But maybe it was someone else and I've mixed up the people.

Aleialoura, (sp?) I think.

Tara's dating a transman (Lee).