RE: Making fals equivalency between Christian and islamic 'fundemantalists'
September 17, 2012 at 7:32 am
(This post was last modified: September 17, 2012 at 7:45 am by Brian37.)
(September 16, 2012 at 9:30 am)Puddleglum Wrote: I hear a lot ,lately, about how US christianity has its own 'fundamentalists' who are 'just as extreme' as the Muslim ones.
This is demonstrably nonsense. The behaviour of your average loony baptist,creationist biblical literalist if observed in the Muslim would would be unbelievably moderate ,liberal even.
Christian loons don't kill their daughters for 'dishonouring' the family, they don't start mass riots and storm the embassies of Muslim countries because of some insult that Muslims have made against Christians
There is simply no equivalence at all.
Christian violence is not widespread like in Islam, but the underpinnings of gang mentality is still there. Christians had their Dark Ages, Iquisition and burned Witches. And even today they are trying to hijack politics to subjegate women's bodies to being Jesus owned. They deny gays equal rights.
The only difference between Islam and Christianity, is that Christianity has had a secular leash on it for 200 years. But you are being foolish to think that Christianity without that leash would not be as tribal and violent if given the chance. The west is civil in spit of religion, not because of it.
All the gods of Abrham are characters that demand loyalty and fight the outsider. Only people like Jefferson and Paine changed that tide. They knew that you couldn't stop people from believing what they want, but they came up with the concept of government neutrality and a ban on monopolies of power and a ban on pecking orders.
I have no doubt if there had never been written the Constitution, much of the freedom of religious minorities and the rights of women and blacks, would not have come about.
Christians don't view the bible the same way Islam views the Koran, I agree. But there was far more literallism and bloodshed in Christianity util the Age of Enlightenment. To ignore that is foolish.
The violence allowed, condoned and even caused by God in the bible is still written in word. People today chose to ignore those words or twist them to downpay the fact the words are there.
The bible is full of violence from begining to end. It is no less bloody than the Koran. The only difference is how most Christians interpret it. It is nothing more than a back peddle to avoid literalism.
All holy books are weapons and as long as there are words for humans to read, humans will make up excuses to use them, either in politics to dominate a political party, or to justify bigotry. It allows them to "die for what they believe".
Christianity does not deserve a pass. There was a time when it was as bloody and tribal as Islam is today.
Oh and if you think Christians cant be violent, Africa even today has violent Christians, "Lords Resisence Army".