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Is this seriously worth it? Guantanmo inmate never charged with a crime, dies after 11 years in US custody
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RE: Is this seriously worth it? Guantanmo inmate never charged with a crime, dies after 11 years in US custody
(September 23, 2012 at 8:53 pm)Moros Synackaon Wrote: United States legal system operates under "Innocent until proven guilty".

Hovik's OP was not the opening statement in a court case. He stated that the man "had never committed an act of terrorism." He did not say, "They could not prove he did." or "They did not charge him of one." Well, he did, but he didn't stop there. He went on to make a categorical statement, of sorts.

Quote:Your statement would appear to attempt to establish a form of guilt by the conjecture that no one is 'innocent'. Is that a fair read?

No. My statement is not attempting to establish any guilt at all. As I said, the man may be quite innocent. It might even be likely that he is, though I make no claims. What I am saying is that going out on a limb and saying that the man died without ever committing a terrorist act while knowing nothing about him save that he was held in Gitmo without being charged is not entirely intellectually honest. Statements like that raise red flags for me on the biased nature of the person speaking. If he had stopped at, "He was not charged." I would have no complaint.

Quote:Ideologues use similar implications to justified stone walling legal measures, as if violating the legal system for personal vendettas or ideology is a justification.

I'm not talking about the legal system, though. See above.



I'm going to go ahead and state my opinion on the topic, though I know it will just sidetrack all of the points I just made. I think it is abhorrent to detain a person without charges. They treated him poorly. That does not make him innocent, though, like I said, I make no claims in that respect.
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RE: Is this seriously worth it? Guantanmo inmate never charged with a crime, dies after 11 years in US custody - by Shell B - September 23, 2012 at 9:13 pm

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