RE: Is this seriously worth it? Guantanmo inmate never charged with a crime, dies after 11 years in US custody
September 24, 2012 at 9:41 pm
(This post was last modified: September 24, 2012 at 9:52 pm by Creed of Heresy.)
(September 23, 2012 at 8:11 pm)Shell B Wrote:(September 23, 2012 at 7:14 pm)Hovik Wrote: and died never having committed terrorism.
Making absolutely no statement on him being held or the veracity of his detainment, I have to mention one thing. You cannot say with any certainty that the above statement is true. I completely understand being upset about him being charged, but assuming that he never committed an act of terrorism when all you know about his life was that he was imprisoned without charges is a fucking stretch. He could be as innocent as a baby, but you're definitely making a claim without evidence. No charge =/= to innocent.
As I last recall, the justice system in this country was founded on the basis that people are "innocent, until proven guilty," and he wasn't even charged, much less proven guilty, so by law, yes, he was innocent.
I keep thinking of one of my most favorite quotes by one of our founding fathers, the crazy kite-in-the-storm man himself...
"He who gives up freedom for safety deserves neither."
Freedom of due process. We're giving it up for the idea of safety. Don't we have, like...the most over-inflated military budgets in the entire world, so big it is that the second largest nation, China, only spends...what was it, a TENTH of what we spend yearly, to the tune of a paycheck filled out to the Department of Defense for the estimated total of $553 billion as of 2012's fiscal year?? Pretty sure with a budget like that we sure as fuck don't need to trade our god-damn liberties and ideals in the name of security, cuz we already bought the fucking security with cash! AND A LOT OF IT, I might add.
So, also, to answer Hovik's OP...no. No it isn't. It never has been worth it, and it never will be worth it. Liberty is priceless, amigos.
