RE: Most accurate prophecies EVAR! xD
November 5, 2008 at 11:18 pm
(This post was last modified: November 5, 2008 at 11:35 pm by Daystar.)
(November 5, 2008 at 5:42 pm)infidel666 Wrote:(November 5, 2008 at 12:33 pm)Daystar Wrote: Nothing happened in that many days but if you use the day for a year - since the Bible often uses this reconing (Numbers 14:34 / Ezekiel 4:6 you come up with the year 1914.
Isaac Newton along with other theologians place an importance upon this date. It is likely that it is the date of Christ's "return," or parousia. Presence.
So, where is he? It's 2008 already.
He is in heaven, what did you expect, doing the talk show circuit?
(November 5, 2008 at 8:03 pm)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: This is not evidence. If everyone in the world believed in the FSM for thousands of years it still wouldn't mean there was any truth in it. Same for your God.
How is a god real? Only in that it is percieved as "mighty" or "Venerated." All the mythological gods you can name are real gods only because they are venerated. A god is anything that is venerated. Jesus and Moses and the Judges of Israel were all called gods and were real historical persons.
Your problem right off the bat is that you don't fully understand that. If you try and take a scientific position on the existance of gods without fully understanding what it means to be a god you are screwed from the start. It clouds your percenption and only demonstrates that you are ignorant of what you are talking about.
A god can be anything. If I pick up a stick and make it my god then it is a real god.
(November 5, 2008 at 8:03 pm)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: And I would certainly have the right to correct you if you walked down the street shouting "There IS a GOD!" but I might just ignore you anyway, because you'd sound like an unshakeable faith-head, and I wouldn't want to stand around in the street arguing with you when you might never understand.
[laughs] Well - be that as it may - I couldn't blame you there, but actually you would be wrong even if I were as obtuse as the average 'faith-head.'
(November 5, 2008 at 8:03 pm)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: Your God is a supernatural being. Also everything supernatural there is no evidence for, therefore your God almost certainly does not exist.
Its fine if you want to say that your God exists in the same way Santa Clause does. Thats fine. He almost certainly doesn't exist in reality he's just in your imagination.
The argument can be made that my God is supernatural, but that doesn't change your position into a correct one. It doesn't matter if ones god is a feather up the ass it is still a god.
If you get to the point in this discussion where you realize that and begin to distinguish my alledged supernatural God by his name, as 99% of all gods are known by a name, then your leverage improves sltightly and we can then begin to discuss science and supernatural.
For example, if you had kids would you relate to them the myth of Santa Clause or would you educate them on the Myth of Santa Clause - where it comes from and what it means, how it is represented etc?
When you say God is a Hypothosis that is one thing, when you say pretty much anything else about him it is pure speculation unless you know what you are talking about.