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God does not follow the first principle of morality. Why not?
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RE: God does not follow the first principle of morality. Why not?
(October 5, 2012 at 3:39 pm)JohnDG Wrote: Based upon the christian definition of God he is everything, therefore he is me and you, angels and demons and Lucifer himself. He was never moral nor immoral nor does he care.

Yet he is motivated by something as he sure likes to kill us.
Good point though.

Regards
DL

(October 5, 2012 at 4:24 pm)Ryantology Wrote: One frequent response is that we, as mere humans, are not fit to judge God because we cannot comprehend him. He is infinitely above our morality.

To which I say, God acts in such a way that would be acceptable to almost no mere human's moral code, no matter the origin of it. A perfect God should never behave in a way we would find morally reprehensible in a person. Such a being is unworthy of telling the likes of me, or anybody else, what is and is not 'moral'. Such a being is less perfect than I am.

Not bad but it does not refute their claim completely though.
Better to show that we can comprehend him and that he is not infinitely above our morality.

Use their bible against them. It says with God's own words that man can have his moral sense and knowledge. For they have become as God's, knowing good and evil. Gen 3.

That is knowing exactly what God does in moral terms.

Christians then either have to say the bible is wrong or shut up.

I have had almost all shut up. That is the only way to know they have been bested.

Good hunting. Your argument was sound but left some wiggle room.

Regards
DL

(October 5, 2012 at 5:51 pm)Darkstar Wrote: [

Good point. If he created us, then why did he give us different moral tendancies? Is this another 'test of faith'?


Please have a look at the post just above.

Regards
DL
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RE: God does not follow the first principle of morality. Why not? - by Greatest I am - October 5, 2012 at 9:16 pm

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