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Question to Christians re humility
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RE: Question to Christians re humility
(October 6, 2012 at 1:01 pm)Undeceived Wrote: It is arrogance in the sense of epistemology. Atheists have faith in a doctrine called Empiricism--that whatever they don't perceive directly with their senses does not exist, end of discussion.

Clearly, you have no knowledge of epistemology or empiricism.

(October 6, 2012 at 1:01 pm)Undeceived Wrote: I confess it's not easy to believe with secondhand evidence and reason, but how else are we to know about the non-natural realm?

If there is second-hand evidence, there would be first-hand evidence before that. That's how.

(October 6, 2012 at 1:01 pm)Undeceived Wrote: Atheists claim they know God doesn't exist.

Not all. I'm one of the few.

(October 6, 2012 at 1:01 pm)Undeceived Wrote: Agnostics claim they know they can't know whether God exists. Christians believe that, if there, God would reach through the barrier of nature to contact them. Part of this is accomplished through the Bible, part through the Holy Spirit, and additionally via introspection (by which the created can learn about the image of their creator).

You are missing a few thousand other belief systems. Add them to the list.

(October 6, 2012 at 1:01 pm)Undeceived Wrote: You demand physical proof of a non-physical being.

Nope. You can give non-physical proof if you like. Is there any?

(October 6, 2012 at 1:01 pm)Undeceived Wrote: If your starting point is rooted in naturalism, there's nothing I can do to convince you.

You can always try and show that having a starting point in naturalism is wrong.


(October 6, 2012 at 1:01 pm)Undeceived Wrote: Atheists like to remain closed until pried open. Christians remain open until slammed shut.

You mean their mouths? I agree.

(October 6, 2012 at 1:01 pm)Undeceived Wrote: Don't wait to be convinced by the most undeniable evidence in the universe. Open your eyes and... let yourself be vulnerable. My God is the God of the heart, and he can't meet you until you meet Him.

You see your problem? Heart is an organ that pumps blood. Its the brain that's supposed to think and know. You've stopped thinking and knowing because you are trying to do it through your heart.
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Question to Christians re humility - by Doubting_Thomas - September 30, 2012 at 6:23 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Darwinian - September 30, 2012 at 6:51 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Darkstar - September 30, 2012 at 6:37 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by MysticKnight - September 30, 2012 at 7:00 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Drich - September 30, 2012 at 7:28 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - September 30, 2012 at 7:40 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Darkstar - September 30, 2012 at 7:41 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Drich - September 30, 2012 at 11:19 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - September 30, 2012 at 11:49 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Darkstar - October 1, 2012 at 12:14 am
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Zen Badger - October 1, 2012 at 6:11 am
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Minimalist - October 1, 2012 at 12:17 am
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by downbeatplumb - October 1, 2012 at 2:01 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Polaris - September 30, 2012 at 10:13 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Reforged - October 1, 2012 at 12:20 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Polaris - October 1, 2012 at 8:27 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Annik - September 30, 2012 at 10:19 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Angrboda - September 30, 2012 at 11:44 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by FallentoReason - October 1, 2012 at 12:41 am
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by FallentoReason - October 1, 2012 at 2:05 am
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Angrboda - October 5, 2012 at 7:20 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by genkaus - October 6, 2012 at 1:27 am
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Kayenneh - October 1, 2012 at 8:04 am
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Justtristo - October 1, 2012 at 8:21 am
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Darkstar - October 1, 2012 at 12:01 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by genkaus - October 5, 2012 at 4:43 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Darkstar - October 5, 2012 at 4:48 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Reforged - October 6, 2012 at 12:08 am
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Undeceived - October 6, 2012 at 1:01 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Darkstar - October 6, 2012 at 3:22 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Undeceived - October 8, 2012 at 12:11 am
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by genkaus - October 8, 2012 at 3:35 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Darkstar - October 6, 2012 at 1:58 am
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Whateverist - October 6, 2012 at 2:19 am
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by The Grand Nudger - October 8, 2012 at 12:16 am
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Undeceived - October 8, 2012 at 12:28 am
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by The Grand Nudger - October 8, 2012 at 10:17 am
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Darkstar - October 8, 2012 at 11:49 am
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Undeceived - October 8, 2012 at 12:51 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by downbeatplumb - October 8, 2012 at 1:04 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Undeceived - October 8, 2012 at 4:28 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Darkstar - October 8, 2012 at 4:51 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Darkstar - October 8, 2012 at 5:51 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Darkstar - October 8, 2012 at 1:03 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by Darkstar - October 8, 2012 at 1:08 pm
RE: Question to Christians re humility - by pocaracas - October 8, 2012 at 7:02 pm

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