RE: God does not follow the first principle of morality. Why not?
October 9, 2012 at 10:57 pm
(This post was last modified: October 9, 2012 at 10:57 pm by Drich.)
(October 9, 2012 at 10:29 pm)System of Solace Wrote: "Pretty sure Epicurus didn't have a complex understanding of god because no one's even established that god exists yet. Go back to the drawing board."I have pointed out that Epericus lived before the advent of Christianity in that thread. ThereFore the "god(s)" he was ORGINALLY Speaking of was NOT the God of the bible. Epericus would have only known Him as the God of the Jews. As a Greek/Gentile Philospher The God of the Jews would have made no promises to him nor any of his/gentile people. Let me phrase it so even you can understand. Epericus was NOT Speaking of The God of the bible because he could not have known anything of Him. Epericus was speaking of the gods he knew. None of which applies to the promises made by the God of the bible.
Quote:"I always find it curious that the definitions of Sin and Evil, bear no relation to moral concepts of Good or Bad, merely "Do as you're told" "Don't do as you're told" and then tell us free will is a gift.. just don't use it.. that would be Sin.Actually no, There is no free will in sin. You/we are slaves to sin meaning we have no choice but to sin. "Free Will" is the ablity to choose redemption from sin.
Quote:Free Will, except.. Go to Hell if your will does not match God's will.ONLY IF YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE BASIC CONCEPTS OF GOD. Only if you are working of an ancient greek god model. Only if you think Epicurus' paradox somehow applied to a God he could not possiable know nothing of. (Check the time in which epicurus lived and died)
Therefore Malevolent."
"No you don't. Its called a paradox. You can't resolve it because its a Paradox. You can't dismiss it with that "freewill" bullshit because its a P-a-r-a-d-o-x.
PARADOX.
PARA-FUCKING-DOX."
Quote:"None of this answers the paradox. It just side steps the question by reinterpreting it into a Christian famework. Most of the philosophical basis for what we now consider "Christianity" was laid by Greek thinkers like Plato and Aristotle.The reason the paradox does not work is because the foundations of Christianity were laied by Jesus Christ 200 years after this man died. What's more The omni aspects of God are not a biblically recorded doctrine.(If you wish to argue this show me book chapter and verse that describes the omni aspects of God) These are doctrine carried over from other religions and have been made to fit the revealed nature of God. Which is what the so called paradox hinges on. Remove the non biblical aspects of this paradox and it falls flat.
Kinda like your arguement.
