RE: Failed Biblical Prophecies
October 18, 2012 at 11:28 pm
(This post was last modified: October 18, 2012 at 11:29 pm by Drich.)
(October 18, 2012 at 6:52 pm)Darkstar Wrote: Note the bolded. They were not to simply be conquered, but driven out. That means if they still occupied the land, this would be untrue.Oh I see what you mean! I guess your right they weren't driven out! Holy Smokes Your right!!!
Joshua 15:63 Judah could not dislodge the Jebusites, who were living in Jerusalem; to this day the Jebusites live there with the people of Judah.
Lo and behold, they weren't driven out.
Oh wait, "drive out" is a modern english idom,(http://www.thefreedictionary.com/drive+out) and the this part of the bible that you quoted was written 3500 years or so ago... So does that mean the term 'drive out.' has the same meaning as you understand it now?
Lets go back to the Hebrew and see what word "Drive out was translated from. The Hebrew word is: (ירש yarash) it means in this context:1) to seize, dispossess, take possession off, inherit, disinherit, occupy, impoverish, be an heir
Oh, there is that word I used to describe what the tribe of Juda and benjamin were doing to the land and of the people. They "occupied" the land of the broken Jebsuites.
So scripturally, God delivered upon his promise, and your modern interpertation of the term 'drive out' was misapplied to this passage.
Quote:"Just because "God is with someone" does not mean they use what is avaiable to them." Really? Let's again look at the actual text.God did drive these people out as we have already established. Even though the tribe of Judea was beaten by iron charriots.
"This is how you will know that the living God is among you and that he will certainly drive out before you the Canaanites, Hittites, Hivites, Perizzites, Girgashites, Amorites and Jebusites."
Here god says he will certainly drive all of those people out to show that he is with him. Judah need not 'use' god, god had already said he would do it of his own accord.
Quote:It's an ancient city, of course it is going to crumble eventually. The new city was built over the ancient ruins of the old one. Tell me, how many ancient cities still exist in their original states, and how many of those that do not would you say were permanantly destroyed by god. Note "never found again". Uh, it's right there.

So you've never heard of Rome, Damascus, Jericho, or Jersulem? These people seem to be able to not only use the same land but still use and maintain some of the same structures. While the orginal city of tyer was abandoned and a new civilization was built next to it.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/15...re_Lebanon
Just because the people who live there refer to their new dewelling as tyer does not mean it was the tyer of the bible. They wisly built next to (not on top of) what God destroyed.
Quote:Where were Sodom and Gomorrah anyway? Likewise, what reason do you have to believe that god cursed them when virtually every ancient culture disappeared long ago?What are you talking about? If every ancient culture disappeared then where did we come from?