(October 31, 2012 at 3:20 pm)Faith No More Wrote: Aren't you telling us not to petition god, because that's not how he works.No. I am simply trying to inform you all in the difference between Prayer and petition. In this thread and the one i did on prayer all I see is how you all say prayer does not work and yet i have not seen one clear cut example of it posted.
If God commands us to pray and all any of you have done is petition, then why would God answer the petition when He has asked you for prayer? That like you telling your kid if you mow the yard I'll buy you the iphone 5 you were bugging me for, and instead of them cutting the grass they just do what they want and continue to ask for what they want and you give it to them! even if you are a parent without enforced boundries, know God isn't. If God say do X and you will receive Y, then know without fail if you do not do X you will not receive Y, no matter what Y means to you.
In short petition without prayer is really meaningless, even though it is not a sin to do it. your just waisting your time, and it gives a false impression to the ablity god has to answer prayer.
Quote: Yet you do it, and you have a success rate of 75%! Is this the part where you tell us we don't know the secret handshake?Prayer, and an active relationship is the hand shake you are talking about.
