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When you prayed did it ever work?
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RE: When you prayed did it ever work?
I think you can't know if prayer works unless you recognize the divine helper within you.

The first step to guidance, is to know yourself. That means you have to let go of all assumptions you have of yourself, and plunge into the depths of what you actually know. This is true regardless if a Creator or soul exists, because then you really don't know yourself at all, if you are just perceiving yourself from chaotic world of false gods (metaphorically speaking).

When your whole foundation begins to break, you might than understand why you need divine help. And at the moment of hope, it may come.

The thing is people say they are seeking divine help, but they really seek help from people and authority.

A Christian seeks help from the bible, from his culture, from his people, try as much as he wants, he will ignore the divine help that will may him recognize the truth, because he is relying on delusions created by others.

It doesn't take belief in in a divine help, it takes hope, and cutting of all false ropes and realizing the one true handhold you have to recognizing yourself in moments of despair and confusion.

Of course, I can't prove any of this, it's anecdotal.
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When you prayed did it ever work? - by rainbowdash274 - October 31, 2012 at 12:16 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - October 31, 2012 at 12:31 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Drich - October 31, 2012 at 12:37 am
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RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Cinjin - October 31, 2012 at 11:52 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Drich - October 31, 2012 at 2:25 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Norfolk And Chance - November 2, 2012 at 10:02 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Cyberman - October 31, 2012 at 12:44 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Drich - October 31, 2012 at 9:51 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by FallentoReason - October 31, 2012 at 11:08 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Drich - October 31, 2012 at 11:38 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by FallentoReason - October 31, 2012 at 11:44 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Fryslân - October 31, 2012 at 11:54 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Cinjin - October 31, 2012 at 12:10 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Drich - October 31, 2012 at 2:56 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Strongbad - November 1, 2012 at 4:04 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Doubting_Thomas - October 31, 2012 at 12:58 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Angrboda - October 31, 2012 at 12:57 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Minimalist - October 31, 2012 at 1:35 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Godschild - October 31, 2012 at 2:40 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by FallentoReason - October 31, 2012 at 3:34 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by JohnDG - October 31, 2012 at 3:41 am
Re: When you prayed did it ever work? - by fr0d0 - October 31, 2012 at 4:38 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by FallentoReason - October 31, 2012 at 5:17 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Godschild - October 31, 2012 at 4:43 am
When you prayed did it ever work? - by Zen Badger - October 31, 2012 at 4:55 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Cyberman - October 31, 2012 at 5:21 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Doubting_Thomas - October 31, 2012 at 5:49 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by festive1 - October 31, 2012 at 7:29 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Edwardo Piet - October 31, 2012 at 8:15 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by KichigaiNeko - October 31, 2012 at 8:48 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Lion IRC - October 31, 2012 at 9:30 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by KichigaiNeko - October 31, 2012 at 9:36 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by KichigaiNeko - October 31, 2012 at 9:51 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Edwardo Piet - October 31, 2012 at 11:11 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Drich - October 31, 2012 at 11:43 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Edwardo Piet - October 31, 2012 at 11:48 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Cyberman - October 31, 2012 at 11:39 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Cyberman - October 31, 2012 at 11:47 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Drich - October 31, 2012 at 2:15 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by KichigaiNeko - October 31, 2012 at 12:15 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by festive1 - October 31, 2012 at 12:20 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Minimalist - October 31, 2012 at 12:37 pm
Re: RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by fr0d0 - October 31, 2012 at 12:53 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Edwardo Piet - October 31, 2012 at 12:54 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Cato - October 31, 2012 at 12:53 pm
Re: RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by fr0d0 - October 31, 2012 at 12:59 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Edwardo Piet - October 31, 2012 at 1:09 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Doubting_Thomas - October 31, 2012 at 1:12 pm
Re: RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by fr0d0 - October 31, 2012 at 1:14 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Edwardo Piet - October 31, 2012 at 2:30 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by The Grand Nudger - October 31, 2012 at 2:17 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Cyberman - October 31, 2012 at 2:30 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Faith No More - October 31, 2012 at 3:20 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Drich - October 31, 2012 at 3:48 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Faith No More - October 31, 2012 at 3:51 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Drich - October 31, 2012 at 4:09 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Edwardo Piet - October 31, 2012 at 4:05 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Drich - October 31, 2012 at 4:22 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Edwardo Piet - October 31, 2012 at 4:35 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Edwardo Piet - October 31, 2012 at 4:12 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Drich - October 31, 2012 at 11:59 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Edwardo Piet - November 1, 2012 at 5:42 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Drich - November 1, 2012 at 9:06 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Edwardo Piet - November 1, 2012 at 10:39 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by festive1 - November 1, 2012 at 11:15 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by rainbowdash274 - November 1, 2012 at 11:39 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Drich - November 1, 2012 at 1:29 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Cyberman - November 1, 2012 at 5:02 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Faith No More - October 31, 2012 at 4:16 pm
Re: RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by fr0d0 - October 31, 2012 at 4:30 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Edwardo Piet - October 31, 2012 at 4:52 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Faith No More - October 31, 2012 at 4:33 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Minimalist - October 31, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Re: RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by fr0d0 - October 31, 2012 at 5:25 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Edwardo Piet - October 31, 2012 at 5:34 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by rainbowdash274 - October 31, 2012 at 5:39 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Minimalist - October 31, 2012 at 5:40 pm
Re: RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by fr0d0 - November 1, 2012 at 12:26 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Kirbmarc - November 1, 2012 at 7:48 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Faith No More - November 1, 2012 at 8:58 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Faith No More - November 1, 2012 at 10:31 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Drich - November 1, 2012 at 1:10 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Edwardo Piet - November 1, 2012 at 1:20 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by MysticKnight - November 1, 2012 at 11:26 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Kirbmarc - November 1, 2012 at 1:00 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Drich - November 1, 2012 at 1:40 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Minimalist - November 1, 2012 at 1:02 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Brian37 - November 1, 2012 at 1:30 pm
Re: RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by fr0d0 - November 1, 2012 at 2:27 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Edwardo Piet - November 1, 2012 at 3:15 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Faith No More - November 1, 2012 at 2:57 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Drich - November 1, 2012 at 8:27 pm
Re: When you prayed did it ever work? - by fr0d0 - November 1, 2012 at 3:33 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Edwardo Piet - November 1, 2012 at 4:25 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Kirbmarc - November 1, 2012 at 6:23 pm
Re: RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by fr0d0 - November 1, 2012 at 6:55 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Edwardo Piet - November 3, 2012 at 4:38 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by IATIA - November 1, 2012 at 7:58 pm
Re: RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by fr0d0 - November 2, 2012 at 4:47 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Brian37 - November 2, 2012 at 6:37 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Lion IRC - November 2, 2012 at 7:11 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Cinjin - November 2, 2012 at 11:57 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by festive1 - November 2, 2012 at 12:56 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Lion IRC - November 2, 2012 at 7:22 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Annik - November 2, 2012 at 9:19 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by LastPoet - November 2, 2012 at 7:46 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Faith No More - November 2, 2012 at 8:12 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Cyberman - November 2, 2012 at 8:24 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by KichigaiNeko - November 2, 2012 at 9:27 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Cyberman - November 2, 2012 at 9:39 am
Re: RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by fr0d0 - November 2, 2012 at 10:57 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Cyberman - November 2, 2012 at 11:04 am
Re: RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by fr0d0 - November 2, 2012 at 12:29 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Cinjin - November 2, 2012 at 3:41 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by pocaracas - November 2, 2012 at 1:01 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Cyberman - November 2, 2012 at 1:10 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by IATIA - November 2, 2012 at 4:19 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Minimalist - November 2, 2012 at 4:24 pm
Re: RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by fr0d0 - November 2, 2012 at 5:25 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Cyberman - November 3, 2012 at 12:22 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Cato - November 2, 2012 at 7:40 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Cinjin - November 2, 2012 at 10:01 pm
Re: RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by fr0d0 - November 2, 2012 at 11:38 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Drich - November 3, 2012 at 12:00 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by FallentoReason - November 3, 2012 at 4:36 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Drich - November 3, 2012 at 12:07 pm
Re: When you prayed did it ever work? - by fr0d0 - November 3, 2012 at 4:58 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by FallentoReason - November 3, 2012 at 5:10 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Welsh cake - November 3, 2012 at 6:01 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Phish - November 3, 2012 at 6:06 am
Re: RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by fr0d0 - November 3, 2012 at 6:43 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Phish - November 8, 2012 at 5:37 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Welsh cake - November 3, 2012 at 10:15 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by FallentoReason - November 3, 2012 at 11:46 am
Re: RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by fr0d0 - November 3, 2012 at 11:51 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by FallentoReason - November 3, 2012 at 12:37 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Drich - November 3, 2012 at 4:37 pm
Re: RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by fr0d0 - November 3, 2012 at 1:18 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Cyberman - November 3, 2012 at 1:23 pm
Re: RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by fr0d0 - November 3, 2012 at 7:58 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Edwardo Piet - November 4, 2012 at 5:20 am
Re: RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by fr0d0 - November 4, 2012 at 6:16 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Edwardo Piet - November 4, 2012 at 6:38 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by FallentoReason - November 4, 2012 at 10:07 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Drich - November 4, 2012 at 11:33 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by FallentoReason - November 5, 2012 at 12:27 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Drich - November 5, 2012 at 2:32 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by FallentoReason - November 5, 2012 at 4:08 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Drich - November 5, 2012 at 11:55 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by FallentoReason - November 5, 2012 at 12:05 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Drich - November 5, 2012 at 2:43 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Cyberman - November 5, 2012 at 3:12 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Cyberman - November 5, 2012 at 12:20 pm
Re: RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by fr0d0 - November 5, 2012 at 2:48 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Ryantology - November 5, 2012 at 12:04 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by ronedee - November 5, 2012 at 2:10 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by LastPoet - November 5, 2012 at 2:24 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Cyberman - November 5, 2012 at 2:35 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by The Grand Nudger - November 5, 2012 at 3:20 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Cyberman - November 5, 2012 at 3:26 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Edwardo Piet - November 5, 2012 at 6:03 pm
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RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Edwardo Piet - November 6, 2012 at 5:37 am
Re: RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by fr0d0 - November 6, 2012 at 2:33 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Edwardo Piet - November 6, 2012 at 4:25 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Ryantology - November 6, 2012 at 4:29 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Drich - November 7, 2012 at 11:29 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Minimalist - November 6, 2012 at 3:20 pm
Re: RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by fr0d0 - November 6, 2012 at 7:07 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Edwardo Piet - November 7, 2012 at 5:12 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by The Grand Nudger - November 7, 2012 at 11:32 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Edwardo Piet - November 7, 2012 at 11:44 am
Re: When you prayed did it ever work? - by fr0d0 - November 7, 2012 at 8:20 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Edwardo Piet - November 8, 2012 at 12:19 pm
Re: When you prayed did it ever work? - by fr0d0 - November 8, 2012 at 1:21 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Edwardo Piet - November 8, 2012 at 3:15 pm
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RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Edwardo Piet - November 8, 2012 at 6:29 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Rayaan - November 8, 2012 at 7:06 pm
Re: When you prayed did it ever work? - by fr0d0 - November 8, 2012 at 7:47 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by The Grand Nudger - November 8, 2012 at 7:54 pm
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RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Rayaan - November 8, 2012 at 11:42 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by JosephBowie - November 9, 2012 at 1:48 am
Re: When you prayed did it ever work? - by fr0d0 - November 9, 2012 at 2:39 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Rayaan - November 9, 2012 at 9:12 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by rbak923 - November 9, 2012 at 8:55 pm
When you prayed did it ever work? - by festive1 - November 9, 2012 at 9:26 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Edwardo Piet - November 11, 2012 at 6:01 am
Re: RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by fr0d0 - November 11, 2012 at 7:13 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Edwardo Piet - November 11, 2012 at 7:44 am
Re: RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by fr0d0 - November 11, 2012 at 8:32 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Edwardo Piet - November 11, 2012 at 10:55 am
Re: RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by fr0d0 - November 11, 2012 at 11:26 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Edwardo Piet - November 11, 2012 at 11:27 am
Re: When you prayed did it ever work? - by fr0d0 - November 11, 2012 at 12:39 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Edwardo Piet - November 11, 2012 at 12:46 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Cyberman - November 11, 2012 at 12:43 pm
Re: RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by fr0d0 - November 11, 2012 at 1:00 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Edwardo Piet - November 11, 2012 at 1:14 pm
Re: RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by fr0d0 - November 11, 2012 at 2:54 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Edwardo Piet - November 11, 2012 at 3:18 pm
Re: RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by fr0d0 - November 11, 2012 at 3:41 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by The Grand Nudger - November 11, 2012 at 3:43 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Edwardo Piet - November 11, 2012 at 3:43 pm
Re: When you prayed did it ever work? - by fr0d0 - November 11, 2012 at 5:55 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Edwardo Piet - November 11, 2012 at 5:58 pm
Re: When you prayed did it ever work? - by fr0d0 - November 11, 2012 at 6:03 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Edwardo Piet - November 11, 2012 at 6:05 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by ronedee - November 14, 2012 at 1:46 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Strongbad - November 14, 2012 at 8:31 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Cyberman - November 14, 2012 at 11:29 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by pocaracas - November 14, 2012 at 11:54 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Kousbroek - November 14, 2012 at 4:10 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Darkstar - November 14, 2012 at 4:48 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by ronedee - November 16, 2012 at 1:37 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Darkstar - November 16, 2012 at 8:47 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by ronedee - November 16, 2012 at 9:44 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Cato - November 17, 2012 at 4:04 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by ronedee - November 19, 2012 at 2:17 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Cato - November 20, 2012 at 11:38 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by pocaracas - November 17, 2012 at 8:06 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Kousbroek - November 17, 2012 at 8:31 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Whateverist - November 20, 2012 at 3:13 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Mister Agenda - November 20, 2012 at 1:02 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by KichigaiNeko - November 14, 2012 at 8:34 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Faith No More - November 14, 2012 at 9:44 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Cyberman - November 16, 2012 at 1:41 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by mr.atheist - November 16, 2012 at 10:28 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by The Grand Nudger - November 17, 2012 at 1:18 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by The Grand Nudger - November 17, 2012 at 11:15 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Angrboda - November 20, 2012 at 2:46 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by KichigaiNeko - November 21, 2012 at 9:14 am

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