RE: When you prayed did it ever work?
November 1, 2012 at 11:26 am
(This post was last modified: November 1, 2012 at 11:29 am by Mystic.)
I think you can't know if prayer works unless you recognize the divine helper within you.
The first step to guidance, is to know yourself. That means you have to let go of all assumptions you have of yourself, and plunge into the depths of what you actually know. This is true regardless if a Creator or soul exists, because then you really don't know yourself at all, if you are just perceiving yourself from chaotic world of false gods (metaphorically speaking).
When your whole foundation begins to break, you might than understand why you need divine help. And at the moment of hope, it may come.
The thing is people say they are seeking divine help, but they really seek help from people and authority.
A Christian seeks help from the bible, from his culture, from his people, try as much as he wants, he will ignore the divine help that will may him recognize the truth, because he is relying on delusions created by others.
It doesn't take belief in in a divine help, it takes hope, and cutting of all false ropes and realizing the one true handhold you have to recognizing yourself in moments of despair and confusion.
Of course, I can't prove any of this, it's anecdotal.
The first step to guidance, is to know yourself. That means you have to let go of all assumptions you have of yourself, and plunge into the depths of what you actually know. This is true regardless if a Creator or soul exists, because then you really don't know yourself at all, if you are just perceiving yourself from chaotic world of false gods (metaphorically speaking).
When your whole foundation begins to break, you might than understand why you need divine help. And at the moment of hope, it may come.
The thing is people say they are seeking divine help, but they really seek help from people and authority.
A Christian seeks help from the bible, from his culture, from his people, try as much as he wants, he will ignore the divine help that will may him recognize the truth, because he is relying on delusions created by others.
It doesn't take belief in in a divine help, it takes hope, and cutting of all false ropes and realizing the one true handhold you have to recognizing yourself in moments of despair and confusion.
Of course, I can't prove any of this, it's anecdotal.