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When you prayed did it ever work?
Re: RE: When you prayed did it ever work?
(November 4, 2012 at 6:38 am)DoubtVsFaith Wrote: Thanks for your answer. I can't really comment on that because I simply don't see how anything from a book is valid evidence of God. You clearly disagree on that.

And like I said I merely misinterpreted 'we know his will as we test it against himself' to mean we know his will as we test his will against himself. I didn't realize that the 'it' was referring to 'prayer' which was mentioned in a previous sentence. That is all.

Please show me where I said that sentence you keep quoting.

I don't see the book as evidence in the way I think you demand. If it were that evidence I would expect to lay it down as sole proof and rest at that. It's information to take or leave, purposefully. It never seeks to prove God. It assumes God, because that was the cultural norm of its authors. We're it written now, the distinction would be made, because a modern audience wouldn't assume God. The book reflects the direct experience of believers. It doesn't force something foreign onto us.
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When you prayed did it ever work? - by rainbowdash274 - October 31, 2012 at 12:16 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - October 31, 2012 at 12:31 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Drich - October 31, 2012 at 12:37 am
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RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Cinjin - October 31, 2012 at 11:52 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Drich - October 31, 2012 at 2:25 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Norfolk And Chance - November 2, 2012 at 10:02 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Cyberman - October 31, 2012 at 12:44 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Drich - October 31, 2012 at 9:51 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by FallentoReason - October 31, 2012 at 11:08 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Drich - October 31, 2012 at 11:38 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by FallentoReason - October 31, 2012 at 11:44 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Fryslân - October 31, 2012 at 11:54 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Cinjin - October 31, 2012 at 12:10 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Drich - October 31, 2012 at 2:56 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Strongbad - November 1, 2012 at 4:04 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Doubting_Thomas - October 31, 2012 at 12:58 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Angrboda - October 31, 2012 at 12:57 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Minimalist - October 31, 2012 at 1:35 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Godschild - October 31, 2012 at 2:40 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by FallentoReason - October 31, 2012 at 3:34 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by JohnDG - October 31, 2012 at 3:41 am
Re: When you prayed did it ever work? - by fr0d0 - October 31, 2012 at 4:38 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by FallentoReason - October 31, 2012 at 5:17 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Godschild - October 31, 2012 at 4:43 am
When you prayed did it ever work? - by Zen Badger - October 31, 2012 at 4:55 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Cyberman - October 31, 2012 at 5:21 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Doubting_Thomas - October 31, 2012 at 5:49 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by festive1 - October 31, 2012 at 7:29 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Edwardo Piet - October 31, 2012 at 8:15 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by KichigaiNeko - October 31, 2012 at 8:48 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Lion IRC - October 31, 2012 at 9:30 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by KichigaiNeko - October 31, 2012 at 9:36 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by KichigaiNeko - October 31, 2012 at 9:51 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Edwardo Piet - October 31, 2012 at 11:11 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Drich - October 31, 2012 at 11:43 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Edwardo Piet - October 31, 2012 at 11:48 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Cyberman - October 31, 2012 at 11:39 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Cyberman - October 31, 2012 at 11:47 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Drich - October 31, 2012 at 2:15 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by KichigaiNeko - October 31, 2012 at 12:15 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by festive1 - October 31, 2012 at 12:20 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Minimalist - October 31, 2012 at 12:37 pm
Re: RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by fr0d0 - October 31, 2012 at 12:53 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Edwardo Piet - October 31, 2012 at 12:54 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Cato - October 31, 2012 at 12:53 pm
Re: RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by fr0d0 - October 31, 2012 at 12:59 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Edwardo Piet - October 31, 2012 at 1:09 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Doubting_Thomas - October 31, 2012 at 1:12 pm
Re: RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by fr0d0 - October 31, 2012 at 1:14 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Edwardo Piet - October 31, 2012 at 2:30 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by The Grand Nudger - October 31, 2012 at 2:17 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Cyberman - October 31, 2012 at 2:30 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Faith No More - October 31, 2012 at 3:20 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Drich - October 31, 2012 at 3:48 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Faith No More - October 31, 2012 at 3:51 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Drich - October 31, 2012 at 4:09 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Edwardo Piet - October 31, 2012 at 4:05 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Drich - October 31, 2012 at 4:22 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Edwardo Piet - October 31, 2012 at 4:35 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Edwardo Piet - October 31, 2012 at 4:12 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Drich - October 31, 2012 at 11:59 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Edwardo Piet - November 1, 2012 at 5:42 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Drich - November 1, 2012 at 9:06 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Edwardo Piet - November 1, 2012 at 10:39 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by festive1 - November 1, 2012 at 11:15 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by rainbowdash274 - November 1, 2012 at 11:39 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Drich - November 1, 2012 at 1:29 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Cyberman - November 1, 2012 at 5:02 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Faith No More - October 31, 2012 at 4:16 pm
Re: RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by fr0d0 - October 31, 2012 at 4:30 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Edwardo Piet - October 31, 2012 at 4:52 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Faith No More - October 31, 2012 at 4:33 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Minimalist - October 31, 2012 at 4:39 pm
Re: RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by fr0d0 - October 31, 2012 at 5:25 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Edwardo Piet - October 31, 2012 at 5:34 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by rainbowdash274 - October 31, 2012 at 5:39 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Minimalist - October 31, 2012 at 5:40 pm
Re: RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by fr0d0 - November 1, 2012 at 12:26 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Kirbmarc - November 1, 2012 at 7:48 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Faith No More - November 1, 2012 at 8:58 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Faith No More - November 1, 2012 at 10:31 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Drich - November 1, 2012 at 1:10 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Edwardo Piet - November 1, 2012 at 1:20 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by MysticKnight - November 1, 2012 at 11:26 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Kirbmarc - November 1, 2012 at 1:00 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Drich - November 1, 2012 at 1:40 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Minimalist - November 1, 2012 at 1:02 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Brian37 - November 1, 2012 at 1:30 pm
Re: RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by fr0d0 - November 1, 2012 at 2:27 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Edwardo Piet - November 1, 2012 at 3:15 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Faith No More - November 1, 2012 at 2:57 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Drich - November 1, 2012 at 8:27 pm
Re: When you prayed did it ever work? - by fr0d0 - November 1, 2012 at 3:33 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Edwardo Piet - November 1, 2012 at 4:25 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Kirbmarc - November 1, 2012 at 6:23 pm
Re: RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by fr0d0 - November 1, 2012 at 6:55 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Edwardo Piet - November 3, 2012 at 4:38 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by IATIA - November 1, 2012 at 7:58 pm
Re: RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by fr0d0 - November 2, 2012 at 4:47 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Brian37 - November 2, 2012 at 6:37 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Lion IRC - November 2, 2012 at 7:11 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Cinjin - November 2, 2012 at 11:57 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by festive1 - November 2, 2012 at 12:56 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Lion IRC - November 2, 2012 at 7:22 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Annik - November 2, 2012 at 9:19 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by LastPoet - November 2, 2012 at 7:46 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Faith No More - November 2, 2012 at 8:12 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Cyberman - November 2, 2012 at 8:24 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by KichigaiNeko - November 2, 2012 at 9:27 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Cyberman - November 2, 2012 at 9:39 am
Re: RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by fr0d0 - November 2, 2012 at 10:57 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Cyberman - November 2, 2012 at 11:04 am
Re: RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by fr0d0 - November 2, 2012 at 12:29 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Cinjin - November 2, 2012 at 3:41 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by pocaracas - November 2, 2012 at 1:01 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Cyberman - November 2, 2012 at 1:10 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by IATIA - November 2, 2012 at 4:19 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Minimalist - November 2, 2012 at 4:24 pm
Re: RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by fr0d0 - November 2, 2012 at 5:25 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Cyberman - November 3, 2012 at 12:22 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Cato - November 2, 2012 at 7:40 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Cinjin - November 2, 2012 at 10:01 pm
Re: RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by fr0d0 - November 2, 2012 at 11:38 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Drich - November 3, 2012 at 12:00 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by FallentoReason - November 3, 2012 at 4:36 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Drich - November 3, 2012 at 12:07 pm
Re: When you prayed did it ever work? - by fr0d0 - November 3, 2012 at 4:58 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by FallentoReason - November 3, 2012 at 5:10 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Welsh cake - November 3, 2012 at 6:01 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Phish - November 3, 2012 at 6:06 am
Re: RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by fr0d0 - November 3, 2012 at 6:43 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Phish - November 8, 2012 at 5:37 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Welsh cake - November 3, 2012 at 10:15 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by FallentoReason - November 3, 2012 at 11:46 am
Re: RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by fr0d0 - November 3, 2012 at 11:51 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by FallentoReason - November 3, 2012 at 12:37 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Drich - November 3, 2012 at 4:37 pm
Re: RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by fr0d0 - November 3, 2012 at 1:18 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Cyberman - November 3, 2012 at 1:23 pm
Re: RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by fr0d0 - November 3, 2012 at 7:58 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Edwardo Piet - November 4, 2012 at 5:20 am
Re: RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by fr0d0 - November 4, 2012 at 6:16 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Edwardo Piet - November 4, 2012 at 6:38 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by FallentoReason - November 4, 2012 at 10:07 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Drich - November 4, 2012 at 11:33 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by FallentoReason - November 5, 2012 at 12:27 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Drich - November 5, 2012 at 2:32 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by FallentoReason - November 5, 2012 at 4:08 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Drich - November 5, 2012 at 11:55 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by FallentoReason - November 5, 2012 at 12:05 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Drich - November 5, 2012 at 2:43 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Cyberman - November 5, 2012 at 3:12 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Cyberman - November 5, 2012 at 12:20 pm
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RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Ryantology - November 5, 2012 at 12:04 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by ronedee - November 5, 2012 at 2:10 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by LastPoet - November 5, 2012 at 2:24 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Cyberman - November 5, 2012 at 2:35 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by The Grand Nudger - November 5, 2012 at 3:20 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Cyberman - November 5, 2012 at 3:26 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Edwardo Piet - November 5, 2012 at 6:03 pm
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RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Edwardo Piet - November 6, 2012 at 5:37 am
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RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Edwardo Piet - November 6, 2012 at 4:25 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Ryantology - November 6, 2012 at 4:29 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Drich - November 7, 2012 at 11:29 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Minimalist - November 6, 2012 at 3:20 pm
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RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Edwardo Piet - November 7, 2012 at 5:12 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by The Grand Nudger - November 7, 2012 at 11:32 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Edwardo Piet - November 7, 2012 at 11:44 am
Re: When you prayed did it ever work? - by fr0d0 - November 7, 2012 at 8:20 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Edwardo Piet - November 8, 2012 at 12:19 pm
Re: When you prayed did it ever work? - by fr0d0 - November 8, 2012 at 1:21 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Edwardo Piet - November 8, 2012 at 3:15 pm
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RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Edwardo Piet - November 8, 2012 at 6:29 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Rayaan - November 8, 2012 at 7:06 pm
Re: When you prayed did it ever work? - by fr0d0 - November 8, 2012 at 7:47 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by The Grand Nudger - November 8, 2012 at 7:54 pm
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RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Rayaan - November 8, 2012 at 11:42 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by JosephBowie - November 9, 2012 at 1:48 am
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RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Rayaan - November 9, 2012 at 9:12 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by rbak923 - November 9, 2012 at 8:55 pm
When you prayed did it ever work? - by festive1 - November 9, 2012 at 9:26 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Edwardo Piet - November 11, 2012 at 6:01 am
Re: RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by fr0d0 - November 11, 2012 at 7:13 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Edwardo Piet - November 11, 2012 at 7:44 am
Re: RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by fr0d0 - November 11, 2012 at 8:32 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Edwardo Piet - November 11, 2012 at 10:55 am
Re: RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by fr0d0 - November 11, 2012 at 11:26 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Edwardo Piet - November 11, 2012 at 11:27 am
Re: When you prayed did it ever work? - by fr0d0 - November 11, 2012 at 12:39 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Edwardo Piet - November 11, 2012 at 12:46 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Cyberman - November 11, 2012 at 12:43 pm
Re: RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by fr0d0 - November 11, 2012 at 1:00 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Edwardo Piet - November 11, 2012 at 1:14 pm
Re: RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by fr0d0 - November 11, 2012 at 2:54 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Edwardo Piet - November 11, 2012 at 3:18 pm
Re: RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by fr0d0 - November 11, 2012 at 3:41 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by The Grand Nudger - November 11, 2012 at 3:43 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Edwardo Piet - November 11, 2012 at 3:43 pm
Re: When you prayed did it ever work? - by fr0d0 - November 11, 2012 at 5:55 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Edwardo Piet - November 11, 2012 at 5:58 pm
Re: When you prayed did it ever work? - by fr0d0 - November 11, 2012 at 6:03 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Edwardo Piet - November 11, 2012 at 6:05 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by ronedee - November 14, 2012 at 1:46 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Strongbad - November 14, 2012 at 8:31 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Cyberman - November 14, 2012 at 11:29 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by pocaracas - November 14, 2012 at 11:54 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Kousbroek - November 14, 2012 at 4:10 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Darkstar - November 14, 2012 at 4:48 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by ronedee - November 16, 2012 at 1:37 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Darkstar - November 16, 2012 at 8:47 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by ronedee - November 16, 2012 at 9:44 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Cato - November 17, 2012 at 4:04 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by ronedee - November 19, 2012 at 2:17 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Cato - November 20, 2012 at 11:38 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by pocaracas - November 17, 2012 at 8:06 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Kousbroek - November 17, 2012 at 8:31 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Whateverist - November 20, 2012 at 3:13 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Mister Agenda - November 20, 2012 at 1:02 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by KichigaiNeko - November 14, 2012 at 8:34 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Faith No More - November 14, 2012 at 9:44 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Cyberman - November 16, 2012 at 1:41 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by mr.atheist - November 16, 2012 at 10:28 pm
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by The Grand Nudger - November 17, 2012 at 1:18 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by The Grand Nudger - November 17, 2012 at 11:15 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by Angrboda - November 20, 2012 at 2:46 am
RE: When you prayed did it ever work? - by KichigaiNeko - November 21, 2012 at 9:14 am

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