When you prayed did it ever work?

[Edwardo Piet]

Please show me where I said that sentence you keep quoting.

From post #61 on this thread:

Prayer is talking with God. It's the live relationship where you discover his will. You know his will as you test it against your knowledge of him. If it is inconsistent with accepted (by you) knowledge then it's not him.

My bolding. That's what confused me. The idea that you know his will as you test it against him. I realized later that I was misinterpreting, as I said, because when you said 'it' you must have meant the word 'Prayer' from two sentences before - because that way it makes sense. I just didn't notice what you meant at first because your 'it' was in the same sentence as 'his will' so it seemed like they were connected. It would of course make no sense to say that "you know his will as you test it against him".

I don't see the book as evidence in the way I think you demand.

I'm not demanding anything, I've already said that.

It's information to take or leave, purposefully. It never seeks to prove God. It assumes God, because that was the cultural norm of its authors. We're it written now, the distinction would be made, because a modern audience wouldn't assume God. The book reflects the direct experience of believers. It doesn't force something foreign onto us.

Are you saying that you justify it pragmatically? It's useful for you to believe in God? You follow a book that assumes God, not a book that gives evidence for God?

Or if you're saying it's not proof, but it is evidence, just a different kind of evidence, then how is assuming God evidence?