RE: Big Bang Theory
November 9, 2012 at 3:54 pm
(This post was last modified: November 9, 2012 at 3:58 pm by Truth Matters.)
(November 9, 2012 at 2:47 pm)Annik Wrote: Show me your evidence for a god and then show my evidence that the god is actually the one you worship. You've got a belief in god, I don't. It's that simple. 1 to the 0. On to the off. Positive to the neutral. Instead of putting words in my mouth with the finesse of a drunk teenager, break out some real evidence, if you even can.
I've delivered evidence.
You delivered a phony definition of Atheism, excuses for why you have no evidence or arguments and refused to answer my question when I proved you wrong.
All your protests are fully defeated. None of my evidence has been dented.
(November 9, 2012 at 3:06 pm)jonb Wrote:(November 9, 2012 at 1:12 pm)Truth Matters Wrote: You have demonstrated nothing about my argument that is inconsistent or woolly. You merely claim it with empty assertions.
I have presented just one of the many potent evidences for God (touching on two with Fine Tuning). You IGNORE the evidence, but have not defeated anything in the slightest - nor have you demonstrated any plausible alternatives to the evidence. Now you claim that no evidence exists?
Sorry, but your faith that Materialism can account for the absolute beginning of Physics is sub-rational. I have a fully rational, sufficient and coherent causal agency. You have nothing but hollow protests that have no merit.
The irony is that you call me 'deluded' as a pejorative, yet your Atheism reduces mind to nothing but chemically induced delusion. You have no other logical possibilities available to explain mind.
Logic matters
To combine two separate things you have to show how they are connected. Just to say they are connected is woolly.
I have no interest in defeating or winning, my attitude to religion does not rest in science, as such a conversation about science is not going to affect it in one way or another, and I do not think if you found a fact that did not work with your belief in god, it would affect your belief either.
No my interest is not to do with winning or loosing, I have an interest in the curious beliefs some people hold, your position interests me, because you seem to be saying science proves the existence of god, and that appeals to my absurdist nature, and I would like to get to the bottom of your strange thinking.
I have no particular affinity with materialism. I think you should find out about a thing before you say what it is.
I will ignore your bit of name calling, but you see I want to see your rational, You have yet to show it, and I am sure it would amuse me if you did flop it out on the table.
That's cute. I'm glad you are amused. I'de be more impressed if you had the courage to defend your position - whatever it is. Of course, drifting aimelessly is not a position.