RE: Big Bang Theory
November 12, 2012 at 12:17 pm
(This post was last modified: November 12, 2012 at 12:28 pm by Truth Matters.)
(November 10, 2012 at 3:41 pm)DoubtVsFaith Wrote:(November 9, 2012 at 7:57 pm)Truth Matters Wrote: Listen, you are dismissing some very serious arguments with superficial handwaving. You clearly don't understand the arguments and evidences. Of course, I have offered a mere skeleton of outline. You should try to engage and learn them before responding with surface level dismissals.
I can't afford to write a book here, but I can answer any serious objections you may have.
Here is a great place that has lots of free podcasts and answers.
http://www.reasonablefaith.org
I responded to why I thought that the arguments you presented weren't valid or weren't sound. You say I did "superficial handwaving" but you don't explain how that's what I did. You say I "clearly don't understand the arguments and evidences" but you don't explain how that's true either, and I see this as a bad advertisement for the website link that you present to me.
I see you are making excuses for the fact you cannot give serious answers.
(November 10, 2012 at 3:47 pm)The_Germans_are_coming Wrote:Quote:http://www.reasonablefaith.org/
So is this the source of the ignorance and ideocy reflected in your posts Truth Matters?
Grotesk!!!:
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I see you still have no arguments or evidence to justify your belief - and cannot defeat those I presented. I always knew Atheism is for idiots.
But thanks for the pretty pictures.
(November 11, 2012 at 2:31 pm)Kousbroek Wrote:(November 10, 2012 at 3:27 pm)Truth Matters Wrote: Do the chemicals cause that delusion in your head?
Where is your evidence that your chemical delusions are the correct chemical delusions?
You sure put a load of faith in your chemical delusions.
Atheism is nuts when taken seriously.
If one takes the time to listing to plantinga carefully one could hear him explain there is never such a thing as an objective truth, but that applies to theism just as much as atheism.
Your theistic believes are just as much a chemical delusion as my non believe ( atheism isn't a belief btw ).
What matters to me is what do i find more plausible, your theistic ancient bogus story about your invisible friend in the sky or an ever increasing scientific understanding of ourselves and our surrounding.
I'll go with the second if you don't mind, i feel much more comfortable being chemically delusion-ed by people like Neil deGrasse Tyson, Stephen hawking , Michio Kaku, Lawrence Krauss, Brian Greene and Jim Gates just to name a few.
p.s. please be careful with generalizations like "Atheism is nuts when taken seriously." .
I'm not too offended by it ( yet ) because i know who is saying it but it sure doesn't help us to continue some sort of civilized intelligent debate.
So you trust chemical delusions (brain chemicals) more than an objective mind (Soul behind brain chemicals) to make rational decisions?
You claim Atheism is not a Belief? Wow.
Do Atheists not hold a belief position on whether or not God exists?
But your brain chemicals delusion has a bias towards those whose chemical delusions are Materialistic?
Yep, Atheism is madness when taken seriously. But hey, I'm just taking your Naturalism seriously through to it's logically inescapable implications.