RE: Christians celebrate rape, torture, slavery and genocide.
November 13, 2012 at 11:45 am
(This post was last modified: November 13, 2012 at 11:49 am by Darkstar.)
(November 13, 2012 at 11:35 am)John V Wrote:(November 12, 2012 at 5:22 pm)Darkstar Wrote: Forced marriage does not necessarily equate to rape.True, and forced marriage is what we're discussing.
Forced marriage in biblical times. Whether or not someone gets raped by their spouse is independant of whether or not the marriage was voluntary, but typically cultures with forced marriages (especially in the distant past) also allowed spousal rape.
Take a look at this passage:
Ephesians 5:22-24
22 Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. 24 Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.
So, yes, women would be forced to submit sexually to their husbands. Well, in this case it wouldn't really be women but probably young teens/preteens (given the customs and life expectancy of the time).
John V Wrote:Darkstar Wrote:It is when the wife (it could also technically be the husband, but I don't think it ever has been) is forced to have sex. Marriage is not rape, rape is rape, regardless of context.Again, that's a relatively rare view across time and cultures.
If forcing someone to have sex with you against their will isn't rape, then what is? And if you say that it isn't rape in a marriage, then we must note that the marriage was also forced. Or are you implying that women shouldn't have a say in the matter, and that the bible is morally correct after all?
John Adams Wrote:The Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.
