RE: Evidence?
October 3, 2009 at 2:44 pm
(This post was last modified: October 3, 2009 at 2:46 pm by fr0d0.)
LOL I think you completely misunderstood that Retorth 
What I was saying but you read differently.. was not the 'Christianity' was anything - more that the perfect model people aspire to would be another way of thinking about it. You failed to look at that in an unprejudiced way.
So anyway.. lets move on...
1. Not inflexible. Indecisive more like.
What??? God is precisely decisive and this is exactly what you're condemning him for. If you choose not to believe in him, to do bad stuff, you are choosing hell for yourself - no one is imposing that on you - you are completely free to choose that. Explain to me why you are not.
What???
How does God giving you free will and you choosing to not believe (which then makes you anti God/ lost) then not equate to you having free will??? This is completely illogical to me. Again... Please explain.
There can be no morality without choice. Choice ≠ morality.
A god giving you no choice cannot be enabling you to have morals. Morals are only possible with choice. Outside of Christianity... If you perceive yourself to make moral decisions then you are already claiming this choice. How does you're consideration of God then take moral decisions away from you. Again... complete bemusement from me.
God is giving you a choice. You are free to choose completely, within the normal physical constraints of the universe.
If you choose to deny God, God being life, then you are condemning yourself to death/ Hell. You choose it. It is your choice.
How is God indecisive here??? Where did you get that from in your statement??? What are the at least two equal things that God is presenting here without clear direction???
That has to one of the most ignorant regurgitation of rhetoric I've had the misfortune of reading for a long time. Congratulations.
What I was saying but you read differently.. was not the 'Christianity' was anything - more that the perfect model people aspire to would be another way of thinking about it. You failed to look at that in an unprejudiced way.
So anyway.. lets move on...
1. Not inflexible. Indecisive more like.
What??? God is precisely decisive and this is exactly what you're condemning him for. If you choose not to believe in him, to do bad stuff, you are choosing hell for yourself - no one is imposing that on you - you are completely free to choose that. Explain to me why you are not.
Retorth Wrote:If I smoke weed and take other assorted drugs and end up a drug addict on the verge of death then yes I have condemned myself.. However, here it is god who condemns us for not following him while still claiming to give us free will that confuses me.
What???
How does God giving you free will and you choosing to not believe (which then makes you anti God/ lost) then not equate to you having free will??? This is completely illogical to me. Again... Please explain.
Retorth Wrote:If choice equals morality as you say then god isn't moral since he does not give you a choice anyway. Whats more he still condemns you for making what he perceives to be the wrong choice. That is being plain indecisive.
There can be no morality without choice. Choice ≠ morality.
A god giving you no choice cannot be enabling you to have morals. Morals are only possible with choice. Outside of Christianity... If you perceive yourself to make moral decisions then you are already claiming this choice. How does you're consideration of God then take moral decisions away from you. Again... complete bemusement from me.
God is giving you a choice. You are free to choose completely, within the normal physical constraints of the universe.
If you choose to deny God, God being life, then you are condemning yourself to death/ Hell. You choose it. It is your choice.
How is God indecisive here??? Where did you get that from in your statement??? What are the at least two equal things that God is presenting here without clear direction???
(October 3, 2009 at 9:06 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: 'Christianity asserts itself as the ultimate moral stand'
That has to one of the most ignorant regurgitation of rhetoric I've had the misfortune of reading for a long time. Congratulations.
