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Faith?
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RE: Faith?
Arcanus: I've also come across a good defence against the problem of evil but I havn't exactly got it sorted out into a good arguement in my head yet to explain properly.

(October 2, 2009 at 10:10 am)Eilonnwy Wrote: The Problem of Evil is a complicated subject, and unlike Arcanus, I've never seen it satisfactorily explained by a Theist. Maybe I'll take up Arcanus's challenge, to be perfectly honest I have too much on my plant right now to add another writing project to my schedule.

In short, Christianity asserts an all-loving and all-powerful god. For such evil to exist as it currently does, he cannot be both.

Love doesn't mean no pain, it means doing whats best.

(October 1, 2009 at 4:10 pm)solarwave Wrote: What possible evidence could there be for a world beyond our own? Near Death Experiences: I dont mean the ones with fuzzy feelings, I mean the ones where someone is brain dead yet when they wake up know things that happened in the room when dead, or other things unknowable while dead.

The soul could be a mirror of the brain. A copy in spiritual form. Or the soul could be the soul be the explaination of consciousness or free will, but this depends upon whetherits possible for science to explain consciousness in the future. The soul isn't even necessary for life after death. God could recreate the body in spiritual form after death, which i acctually think makes sense with the christian idea of resurrection.

Quote:Near Death Experiences have been shot down. It's completely explainable as a phenomena of the brain dying and shooting off signals which cause these realistic feeling hallucinations. Funny how NDE's always have the experience relevant to their culteral/religious beliefs. Hmmm Dodgy

Im not talking about fuzzy feelings, Im talking about NDE's where the dead person learns something that is true while dead that there is no way of them knowing.
Mark Taylor: "Religious conflict will be less a matter of struggles between belief and unbelief than of clashes between believers who make room for doubt and those who do not."

Einstein: “The most unintelligible thing about nature is that it is intelligible”
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Faith? - by solarwave - September 29, 2009 at 2:19 pm
RE: Faith? - by Eilonnwy - September 29, 2009 at 2:36 pm
RE: Faith? - by Rhizomorph13 - September 29, 2009 at 2:37 pm
RE: Faith? - by Eilonnwy - September 29, 2009 at 2:49 pm
RE: Faith? - by solarwave - September 29, 2009 at 2:58 pm
RE: Faith? - by Eilonnwy - September 29, 2009 at 3:14 pm
RE: Faith? - by solarwave - September 29, 2009 at 3:29 pm
RE: Faith? - by leo-rcc - September 29, 2009 at 3:34 pm
RE: Faith? - by Rhizomorph13 - September 29, 2009 at 3:35 pm
RE: Faith? - by Rhizomorph13 - September 29, 2009 at 3:33 pm
RE: Faith? - by solarwave - September 29, 2009 at 4:17 pm
RE: Faith? - by Rhizomorph13 - September 29, 2009 at 4:40 pm
RE: Faith? - by solarwave - September 29, 2009 at 4:45 pm
RE: Faith? - by Rhizomorph13 - September 29, 2009 at 4:55 pm
RE: Faith? - by solarwave - September 29, 2009 at 5:13 pm
RE: Faith? - by Rhizomorph13 - September 29, 2009 at 5:24 pm
RE: Faith? - by solarwave - September 29, 2009 at 6:01 pm
RE: Faith? - by Rhizomorph13 - September 29, 2009 at 6:18 pm
RE: Faith? - by solarwave - September 30, 2009 at 2:44 pm
RE: Faith? - by Eilonnwy - September 30, 2009 at 3:48 pm
RE: Faith? - by fr0d0 - September 30, 2009 at 4:00 pm
RE: Faith? - by Eilonnwy - September 30, 2009 at 10:27 pm
RE: Faith? - by fr0d0 - September 30, 2009 at 10:39 pm
RE: Faith? - by leo-rcc - October 1, 2009 at 4:07 am
RE: Faith? - by Eilonnwy - October 1, 2009 at 8:19 am
RE: Faith? - by solarwave - October 1, 2009 at 4:10 pm
RE: Faith? - by fr0d0 - September 30, 2009 at 2:48 pm
RE: Faith? - by solarwave - September 30, 2009 at 3:36 pm
RE: Faith? - by solarwave - September 30, 2009 at 4:24 pm
RE: Faith? - by Rhizomorph13 - September 30, 2009 at 5:50 pm
RE: Faith? - by Edwardo Piet - September 30, 2009 at 6:13 pm
RE: Faith? - by Godless - October 1, 2009 at 4:22 am
RE: Faith? - by Violet - October 1, 2009 at 2:52 pm
RE: Faith? - by Rhizomorph13 - October 1, 2009 at 3:05 pm
RE: Faith? - by Violet - October 1, 2009 at 3:19 pm
RE: Faith? - by Rhizomorph13 - October 1, 2009 at 3:25 pm
RE: Faith? - by Violet - October 1, 2009 at 3:36 pm
RE: Faith? - by Rhizomorph13 - October 1, 2009 at 3:44 pm
RE: Faith? - by Violet - October 1, 2009 at 3:59 pm
RE: Faith? - by leo-rcc - October 1, 2009 at 4:02 pm
RE: Faith? - by Violet - October 1, 2009 at 4:39 pm
RE: Faith? - by leo-rcc - October 1, 2009 at 5:08 pm
RE: Faith? - by Rhizomorph13 - October 1, 2009 at 4:07 pm
RE: Faith? - by Rhizomorph13 - October 1, 2009 at 4:55 pm
RE: Faith? - by Violet - October 1, 2009 at 7:09 pm
RE: Faith? - by leo-rcc - October 1, 2009 at 7:26 pm
RE: Faith? - by Violet - October 1, 2009 at 7:38 pm
RE: Faith? - by leo-rcc - October 1, 2009 at 7:50 pm
RE: Faith? - by Violet - October 1, 2009 at 7:52 pm
RE: Faith? - by leo-rcc - October 1, 2009 at 7:53 pm
RE: Faith? - by Violet - October 1, 2009 at 7:56 pm
RE: Faith? - by theblindferrengi - October 1, 2009 at 8:28 pm
RE: Faith? - by Violet - October 1, 2009 at 9:00 pm
RE: Faith? - by fr0d0 - October 2, 2009 at 4:55 am
RE: Faith? - by theblindferrengi - October 1, 2009 at 9:27 pm
RE: Faith? - by solarwave - October 2, 2009 at 4:12 am
RE: Faith? - by Ryft - October 2, 2009 at 5:40 am
RE: Faith? - by Eilonnwy - October 2, 2009 at 10:10 am
RE: Faith? - by solarwave - October 3, 2009 at 2:56 pm
RE: Faith? - by downbeatplumb - October 3, 2009 at 8:51 am
RE: Faith? - by Ryft - October 4, 2009 at 12:40 am
RE: Faith? - by Eilonnwy - October 4, 2009 at 1:28 am
RE: Faith? - by Ryft - October 4, 2009 at 6:38 am
RE: Faith? - by Eilonnwy - October 4, 2009 at 11:17 am
RE: Faith? - by Ryft - October 5, 2009 at 2:13 am
RE: Faith? - by Eilonnwy - October 5, 2009 at 9:23 am
RE: Faith? - by Ryft - October 9, 2009 at 3:35 am
RE: Faith? - by Eilonnwy - October 9, 2009 at 9:08 am
RE: Faith? - by leo-rcc - October 9, 2009 at 4:06 am
RE: Faith? - by Ryft - October 9, 2009 at 5:42 am
RE: Faith? - by leo-rcc - October 9, 2009 at 6:17 am
RE: Faith? - by Tiberius - October 9, 2009 at 6:26 am
RE: Faith? - by Ryft - October 9, 2009 at 6:42 am
RE: Faith? - by fr0d0 - October 9, 2009 at 7:19 am
RE: Faith? - by leo-rcc - October 9, 2009 at 7:38 am

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