RE: Evidence?
October 5, 2009 at 6:19 am
(This post was last modified: October 5, 2009 at 6:53 am by Retorth.)
fr0d0 Wrote:Yet again you dodge the question.
I want you to answer the non religious question to see if the secular answer would correlate to the religious answer.
I did? Please see below:
Retorth Wrote:The entire time I would, in that scenario, have handled the heroin in my own doing, obviously because god to me does not exist (Before you start attacking this I shall state that he cannot be proven nor disproven). Nobody controls me, nobody condemns me, I do the crime I do the time.
Oh and one more thing, when I said "nobody condemns me' I am sure you'll say that I am condemning myself and I do agree in this case that by taking the heroin I would in fact be condemning myself. Just to clarify on that, when I said "nobody condemns me", I actually mean before I even begin to do any wrongdoing. Hope that prevents any misunderstanding.

fr0d0 Wrote:"I don't beieve in him because you realize now how very foolish it sounds"? Seriously.. are you taking something?
I do not know how you actually read and I sincerely do not appreciate your personal attacks, but what I said was:
Retorth Wrote:Now I'm agreeing with you but you don't accept because you realize now how very foolish it sounds.
If you wish to quote, please at least do so properly, I'd really appreciate it.

fr0d0 Wrote:1. You say that I say there is no free will - what???
I still think the issue of freewill is questionable.
fr0d0 Wrote:2. God (as defined in Christianity) is all knowing and all powerful - yep
Ok.
fr0d0 Wrote:3. Do babies choose to be born without limbs - do I really have to answer this?
That's alright, thanks.
fr0d0 Wrote:4. Limbless babies are in God's plan - yes
I see.
I understand your frustration and I apologize if I misunderstood and misinterpreted some of your points. I do not wish to be stubborn in acknowledging when I am wrong and I certainly appreciate your time in explaining these points in finer detail for my benefit. I understand that I was indeed wrong in certain points and again, I sincerely apologize.
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"Only the dead have seen the end of war..." - Plato
“Those who wish to base their morality literally on the Bible have either not read it or not understood it...” - Richard Dawkins