(October 5, 2009 at 7:27 am)fr0d0 Wrote: OK thankyou. So you are saying that if you took the heroin you would indeed be doing something with your own free will was harmful to you therefore proving that God also does not limit free will by giving you a choice to do something either healthy or unhealthy.
Yes I quite agree, however I must clarify, I am not referring to him limiting our free will by not allowing us to make unhealthy choices. I am referring to him condemning us for not believing in him.
fr0d0 Wrote:I am not attacking you. Just trying to get an answer from you about your assertions. Something you seem very reticent to do for some reason.
Questioning my ability by asking me if I took "something" is considered an attack in my opinion. However, if you think it is not, fair enough. I understand where you are coming from.
fr0d0 Wrote:Retorth Wrote:I still think the issue of freewill is questionable.
But you can't or won't articulate why.
I already told you why I feel our free will is questionable with regards to being condemned for not believing in god. You have provided me with your highly informed view on why that is not true. I understand your view, I am not challenging you. Not everything is a challenge. I am here to learn and understand. As I said, if I am wrong to you, I am wrong.
fr0d0 Wrote:That's very gracious of you.
Thank you.
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"Only the dead have seen the end of war..." - Plato
“Those who wish to base their morality literally on the Bible have either not read it or not understood it...” - Richard Dawkins