(November 26, 2012 at 12:21 pm)Drich Wrote:"Die!" - Now just how would eve have known what death was? How would she have known to fear it? Besides, god LIED! EVE did not die that day.(November 25, 2012 at 10:49 am)Brakeman Wrote: Without the "morals" of right and wrong, adam and eve would not have known that it was wrong to disobey god.I see what you are saying, you are just wrong. Eve before she ate of the fruit, demonstrated a sense of 'morality.' In that God told Her if she ate she would die.
2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
If you claim that EVE had a sense of right and wrong before she ate of the fruit, what is the point of the big deal about getting additional knowlege of right and wrong? The only wrong she had to worry about was disobeying god, right? How did that change after the fruit? Is not today your sense of right and wrong dependent on obeying god's will too?
(November 26, 2012 at 12:21 pm)Drich Wrote: Even so Eve took the information she was given by the serpent and created a personal righteousness, or rather she Morally justified eating the forbidden fruit, and subsequently so did Adam. ..
You are messing up your scripture! Adam and eve's sense of right and wrong was the equivalent of god's. God said so.
3:5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
You have read the story haven't you? Or do you just SPAG your way through it?
(November 26, 2012 at 12:21 pm)Drich Wrote:Yes, I am an educated adult in the United States, but I can't make much heads or tails of the above word salad that you have submitted as a reply. Do you care to untangle that into a cohesive thought? I don't use strawman fallacies in my arguments as a rule, so don't worry about that.(November 25, 2012 at 11:54 am)Brakeman Wrote: "Heal yourself," ??? ...no.. God is supposed to heal them because they can't heal themselves, physically or spiritually. They just get to beg for it and never get it answered, both physically and spiritually.You an adult right? From a western culture? If yes on both questions then I am assuming you know how analogies work... If not then understand if I draw an illiterative parallel to help describe a more complex principle then you do not get to change the illustration just to create an argument based on your changes. If you do this, then understand in the adult world is known as a Straw man fallacy. This is where you ignore the stated argument and create your own argument (the straw man) and attack your argument rather than addressing mine.
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