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November 27, 2012 at 2:59 am (This post was last modified: November 27, 2012 at 3:04 am by Aractus.)
(November 26, 2012 at 12:58 pm)apophenia Wrote:
If I may inject a fact or two here. First, despite Daniel's typical disingenous spin, this is not a religious organization, nor is it a part of their mission to further religious goals. Therefore any religious proselytizing, if done using agency resources, is siphoning money and resources away from their actual mission, that of feeding seniors. I haven't been able to procure documents for the specific branch of the MOWAA which serves my area (Minneapolis, MN), but a look at two employment guidelines from other MOWAA branches shows that they forbid the drivers of their programs from proselytizing; I find it incredible that you suggest they both actively promote and actively discourage the activity simultaneously. Second, the meal wasn't free. Despite the MOWAA receiving enormous contributions from volunteers, corporate and individual sponsors and so on, the program still disburses a portion of the cost of the meals by charging the recipient for the meal (about $5, last I checked). Thus my meal was not strictly free, and the portion that was paid for this meal was paid by the medicaid program of Minnesota, which is jointly funded by state and federal governments.
So, no, proselytizing is not acceptable, even by their own standards, and the meal wasn't strictly charity, and was paid for in part by government (i.e. taxpayer) funds.
These facts change the ball game. But only so long as you are correct about their own guidelines. If a sponsor asks for distribution of their material at specific times of the year, they may still accept that. However, if the driver did it on his own, then yes you are correct in asserting that it was wrong.
(November 26, 2012 at 1:41 pm)John V Wrote: So you were bilking taxpayers for a meal you didn't need...nice.
You're an idiot. Christian organizations can choose who they allow to receive their assistance and why they refuse, yes, but they don't decide based on judging people - that's ridiculous. They're made based on whether the service is being abused, and similar reasons. Like if someone is using the service when their needs are better met elsewhere.
You should know this if you've ever been involved in any charitable organizations.