RE: Why do christians think god communicates with warm fuzzy feelings instead of direct verbal speach?
November 28, 2012 at 12:52 pm
(This post was last modified: November 28, 2012 at 1:02 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(November 28, 2012 at 12:33 pm)Drich Wrote: I based my life around what was said. I took risks that I woould have NEVER taken and I stuck out hard times when every fiber of my being told me to run.So, it would be fair to say, that this ghost has such an influence over you that it can make decisions for you, or compel you to continue in a course of action which terrifies you?
Quote:If you found out your wife lied to you about a 250 dollar aday Herion habbit wouldn't you run? Or would you stick out 6 years of recovery, with all the perks of daily shouting matches, bi-weekly meetings, court dates, trying to get back your stuff from various pawn shops? I was on my way out the door. I had my final fight, and told her to pack her crap I had enough. This was the cloest thing I had to actually hearing a voice in a room by myself. I was shown all of my sin and transgressions against God, and then was given a parable to read. (The story of the unmerciful servant) After which I submitted my will to that of God and simply asked that I be given more strength to cope with all of the daily challenges of trying to manage a business and deal with my wife. He did.Me? Probably not. You didn't run, and though you credit a ghostly voice for this is it so hard to imagine that another would have their own (entirely dissimilar) reasons for staying? Some do, some don't...why a person does either could be any number of things.
Quote:No. I Didn't like being reminded of how poor some people are, and how much I had.(Living with my parents at the time) Plus I knew alot of them stink, and are sticky for some reason, and I did not like the idea of 'serving' people who were in a position to only take. (It only took 10 years for me to get over that stuff.)So again we see an entity capable of compelling you to do things you do not want to do.
Quote:Hmn, well this is troubling..you have difficulty determining where you end and the voice begins?
Some are some aren't. I can't tell you which is which now it all seems to blend together, but if you want, and if I am given anything new that i did not know before I will say so. (I've done this in the past)
Quote:How about you, did you like the church..were you showing up regularly? I'm not certain that god is required for a religious organization to open a church somewhere Drich. I mean, there are plenty of churches opening all the time that you don't figure have anything to do with god...right?
'The Ghost' did like going to the old Chruch and rarly showed up anymore. I was told if God doesn't go to a given church then neither did I.
Actually The doctrine of the church became less about scripture and more like the personal rantings of a legalistic preacher.
So while attending I turned to the radio of eddfication. I found a preacher that taught straight from the bible and prayed that I be allowed to move to where this congergation was located. Instead God had them open a church 30 mins from my house..
Quote:Who do you write those checks to, or does the ghost cash them itself?
I think we get 25 to 30% and He takes the rest.
Quote:I was maybe 20 when I got to goto Hell. 21 or 22 when the angel thing happened... Not really sure.So, late teens to early twenties. You missed the ones about the general perception of these conversations. Left, right, stereo, masculine, feminine.
Quote:Since when was this about me? I don't have conversations with ghosts. You've set -yourself- up as a standard..the only standard I'm aware of. I'm just asking you how you perceive these communications. I appreciate that you're attempting to understand why I don't believe (but to be truthful, whether or not I had a conversation with a ghostly voice isn't going to make me a christian Drich - it would have a similarly marginal effect on whether or not I believed in gods or ghosts). Why did this thread turn into your favorite sermon again? I didn't ask you how I could speak to your ghost, I asked you what your experience was like. I don't need faith, so maybe god doesn't speak to me because others need attention in ways that I don't, and he's a busy man. Perhaps god doesn't give me anything because I require no divine gifts or favors to accomplish goals. All of this, is of course, irrelevant with regards to a description of your experiences. If it was something you didn't want to share that's fine (but it's probably not possible for me to refrain from asking questions like these....curiosity you know, once it's been brought up). Otherwise.....you're relating this experience in earnest, are you not? You would appreciate it if I took you seriously, would you not? Well, if any of that is going to happen there will have to be just a smidgeon of reciprocation Drich.
Do you really think you are a measure or the standard of how God can and will communicate to us? Truthfully if my experiences with God were the same as the silence you know i probably believe what you believe. But, it's not. I have said from the beginning A/S/K and God will give you Exactly what you need to establish and maintain your faith. This is what I need. you may need more or you may need less. That is why not everyone gets the same attention. again I got what i need to accomplish the things given to me to accomplishh.
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