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Why did God do Satan’s bidding?
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RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding?



Here's a question. What's a right, and what does it mean for God to have one? Is a god with rights different from a god without rights. Where did he get them?

Second, I think you're subsuming the right of ownership in this act of creation. I may create a child, and for a time, my rights do resemble property rights, but as soon as that child gains sufficient autonomy in one or more areas, those pseudo-property rights start falling away. Are we God's property then, just as the negroe slaves were the property of European and American slave owners? Is that your relationship to God, do you consider yourself both property and essentially God's slave.

(For what it's worth, I theorize that rights are created by men; the notion of a natural right is an oxymoron to me. But I don't want to derail this away from your views. I simply point this out, a, in the interest of disclosure, and in hindsight, b, the concept of a "right" natural or otherwise, isn't a natural kind; we can't go out into the forest and harvest some rights; rights exist as a concept, deeply embedded in a web of values and philosophy. Where did you get the values and philosophical bulwark that defines rights in such a way that we can infer that God has them? If you say, "from God," then your argument becomes circular and essentially vacuous. Who defines what a right is, how is it defined, what is a right, and are they objective?)


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Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by Greatest I am - December 5, 2012 at 5:49 pm
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by LastPoet - December 5, 2012 at 5:52 pm
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by Angrboda - December 5, 2012 at 8:12 pm
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by Undeceived - December 6, 2012 at 2:26 am
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by Zen Badger - December 6, 2012 at 3:51 am
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by Greatest I am - December 6, 2012 at 11:34 am
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by John V - December 6, 2012 at 7:47 pm
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by Greatest I am - December 8, 2012 at 3:48 pm
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by Drich - December 6, 2012 at 3:14 pm
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by Kirbmarc - December 6, 2012 at 3:17 pm
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by Drich - December 6, 2012 at 3:46 pm
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by Greatest I am - December 8, 2012 at 2:44 pm
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by The Grand Nudger - December 6, 2012 at 3:56 pm
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by Kirbmarc - December 6, 2012 at 7:55 pm
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by John V - December 6, 2012 at 9:05 pm
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by Drich - December 7, 2012 at 10:18 am
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by Norfolk And Chance - December 7, 2012 at 12:19 pm
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by Minimalist - December 6, 2012 at 7:58 pm
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by Drich - December 7, 2012 at 10:31 am
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by The Grand Nudger - December 6, 2012 at 9:05 pm
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by Kirbmarc - December 7, 2012 at 5:52 am
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by John V - December 7, 2012 at 9:25 am
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by Zen Badger - December 7, 2012 at 6:01 am
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by Kirbmarc - December 7, 2012 at 10:03 am
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by John V - December 7, 2012 at 12:18 pm
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by LastPoet - December 7, 2012 at 10:21 am
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by Kirbmarc - December 7, 2012 at 10:37 am
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by Drich - December 7, 2012 at 11:49 am
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by The Grand Nudger - December 7, 2012 at 12:05 pm
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by The Grand Nudger - December 7, 2012 at 12:21 pm
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by John V - December 7, 2012 at 1:26 pm
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by Minimalist - December 7, 2012 at 1:23 pm
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by The Grand Nudger - December 7, 2012 at 1:38 pm
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by John V - December 7, 2012 at 1:53 pm
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by The Grand Nudger - December 7, 2012 at 2:02 pm
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by John V - December 7, 2012 at 2:27 pm
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by The Grand Nudger - December 7, 2012 at 2:46 pm
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by John V - December 7, 2012 at 3:47 pm
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by The Grand Nudger - December 7, 2012 at 3:58 pm
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by Angrboda - December 7, 2012 at 4:08 pm
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by John V - December 7, 2012 at 4:39 pm
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by The Grand Nudger - December 7, 2012 at 4:43 pm
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by John V - December 7, 2012 at 4:55 pm
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by The Grand Nudger - December 7, 2012 at 4:59 pm
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by John V - December 7, 2012 at 5:13 pm
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by The Grand Nudger - December 7, 2012 at 5:21 pm
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by John V - December 7, 2012 at 5:28 pm
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by The Grand Nudger - December 7, 2012 at 5:30 pm
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by John V - December 7, 2012 at 5:42 pm
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by The Grand Nudger - December 7, 2012 at 5:45 pm
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by John V - December 7, 2012 at 5:56 pm
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by The Grand Nudger - December 7, 2012 at 6:03 pm
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by John V - December 7, 2012 at 9:14 pm
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by Jackalope - December 7, 2012 at 9:22 pm
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by John V - December 8, 2012 at 6:03 am
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by Kirbmarc - December 7, 2012 at 8:35 pm
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by The Grand Nudger - December 7, 2012 at 9:35 pm
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by Kirbmarc - December 7, 2012 at 9:45 pm
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by The Grand Nudger - December 7, 2012 at 9:51 pm
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by The Grand Nudger - December 8, 2012 at 10:30 am
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by Welsh cake - December 8, 2012 at 10:47 am
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by The Grand Nudger - December 8, 2012 at 11:26 am
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by Undeceived - December 8, 2012 at 11:54 pm
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by Angrboda - December 9, 2012 at 12:12 am
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by John V - December 9, 2012 at 7:03 am
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by Greatest I am - December 9, 2012 at 9:51 am
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by Greatest I am - December 9, 2012 at 9:38 am
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by Undeceived - December 10, 2012 at 2:46 am
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by Greatest I am - December 10, 2012 at 7:31 am
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by Undeceived - December 9, 2012 at 4:26 am
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by Zen Badger - December 9, 2012 at 6:16 am
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by Angrboda - December 9, 2012 at 5:21 am
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by Welsh cake - December 9, 2012 at 6:52 am
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by Cyberman - December 9, 2012 at 9:45 am
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by The Grand Nudger - December 9, 2012 at 11:27 am
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by John V - December 9, 2012 at 8:42 pm
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by Angrboda - December 9, 2012 at 11:16 pm
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by John V - December 10, 2012 at 8:08 am
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by Angrboda - December 10, 2012 at 12:59 pm
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by John V - December 10, 2012 at 2:24 pm
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by The Grand Nudger - December 10, 2012 at 12:25 am
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by KichigaiNeko - December 10, 2012 at 8:59 am
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by The Grand Nudger - December 10, 2012 at 2:51 pm
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by John V - December 10, 2012 at 3:07 pm
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by The Grand Nudger - December 10, 2012 at 3:13 pm
RE: Why did God do Satan’s bidding? - by Angrboda - December 10, 2012 at 3:50 pm

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