RE: Yahweh Volcano Fire God of War: Updated
December 9, 2012 at 12:23 am
(This post was last modified: December 9, 2012 at 12:36 am by TheJackel.)
(December 8, 2012 at 7:18 am)orogenicman Wrote: In fact, there is the Harrat Ash Shaam volcanic field that extends from southern Syria through NW Jordan to Saudi Arabia. Then there is the Harrat ar Rahah field in Saudi Arabia to consider. Neumann van Padang (1963) in the Catalog of Active Volcanoes of the World speculated that the Israelite account in Exodus 19:16-18 might refer to an eruption from Harrat ar Rahah. Also, there is Harrat 'Uwayrid, also in Saudi Arabia. The Catalog of Active Volcanoes of the World (Neumann van Pandang, 1963a) indicated that an eruption in about 640 AD at Harrat 'Uwayrid may have been from either Hala-'l-Bedr or Hala-'l-'Ischia, or both. Bedouin legends say that Hala-'l-Bedr erupted fire and stones, killing herdsmen and their cattle and sheep.
Very good point. And I think that this really shows that these people lived in a volcanic region of the world.. Also, I think Exodus was considered patch work of various time periods.. Though it would be nice if we could verify which Volcano was Mt. Sinai, but that is unlikely to ever happen.. So we can only speculate there. However, we can agree that there are plenty to choose from.. And I think your point is valid that this GOD is likely associated with one or more, if not all volcanic activity in the region. Hence, where ever they see volcanic activity, they would probably associate it with their GOD..
I will try to dig further into this and hopefully write an details article on it
Quote:The archaeologists are going to have to reconcile with the chart prepared by the geologists aren't they? Studies have confirmed the foot thick ash layers in Asia Minor. The winds cannot have been blowing in all directions at once.
actually a volcanic eruption that large can have drastic effects on the weather and like cause shifts in the wind. And the thing is, the material was tested I believe to have come from that volcano. It had to come an Active volcano in the region at that time period, and so far that is the only candidate.
Quote:Some years ago there was an absolutely dreadful "documentary" called The Exodus Decoded put out by a bozo named Simcha Jacobovici...who calls himself the Naked Archaeologist even though he is neither. He, too, insisted on the 1500 BC date and tried to use the excavations of Manfred Bietak at Avaris. He horribly misquoted Bietak who noted finding a handful of flakes of volcanic ash into exactly the same kind of catastrophe. Well, it didn't work and as noted, 1,500 is well over a century too late for Thera.
I haven't cited him, and I am basing this only on the facts known. All the evidence shows it to have come from Thera.. Volcanic ash and rock doesn't just magically appear..
Quote:What is possible is that Lower Egypt, dominated by the foreign Hyksos 15th dynasty, suffered economically from the loss of their commercial partners to Thera and they were subsequently defeated by Upper Egypt under Ahmose I. In any case, the Hyksos were rulers not slaves which makes the exodus tale a pile of crap written centuries later for political purposes.
I agree Exodus is fictional.. However fiction is often written based on a real event such as super volcanic eruption.. We write such fiction based on real events all the time, and Exodus is likely a prime example of this. Especially if it's good propaganda and a means to elevate and substantiate a cults GOD above all others. And it's interesting that after the Kyksos rulers get kicked out that you start to see the Yahwist monotheist movement that goes on to usurp the Canaanite Pantheon.
