(October 9, 2009 at 2:06 am)Arcanus Wrote:(October 5, 2009 at 10:51 am)Rhizomorph13 Wrote: My interpretation of the Bible is that God acts on reality, so therefore he should leave evidence.
(1) Please provide an example of one of those acts from the Bible, and then (2) articulate what sort of evidence you think it should leave behind, such that it would indicate God as the agent to you.
The flood comes to mind. If it could be demonstrated that it covered the whole Earth and there would also be a large boat built to the specifications mentioned in the bible. It could be argued that the flood was caused naturally but the fact that Noah had knowledge of the flood before it happened would show that God was involved.
(October 9, 2009 at 2:06 am)Arcanus Wrote:(October 5, 2009 at 10:51 am)Rhizomorph13 Wrote: Depends on what you mean by proposition.
You know I'm a student of philosophy. Ergo, you should know I mean it in its philosophical sense. (If you follow the Quine school, think 'sentence'. If you follow the Strawson school, think 'statement'. Take your pick; they all predicate the same thing.) For instance, when you said that "reality is real," that is a proposition.
I don't follow any school of philosophy. I have built my understanding of how to approach knowledge based on ad hoc knowledge aquired from random sources that seemed "cool" to read at the time. I just wanted to know what you meant by proposition. According to your answer it seems simple enough.
(October 9, 2009 at 2:06 am)Arcanus Wrote: Would you say that nothing exists unless it has spatio-temporal properties?
Yes, I would agree with that.
(October 9, 2009 at 2:06 am)Arcanus Wrote: That which is part of creation cannot be the creator thereof without involving a logical contradiction; God would have to exist and not-exist at the same time and in the same respect. Ergo, (1) it is not something that just conveniently happens to be the case, but rather something that is logically impossible to be otherwise, and therefore
As of 8:12 am (PST) yesterday I had an epiphany. I retract my request for evidence of God and see that there is none that would prove the existence of God as you define him. I agree that if there were a God that it would need to exist outside space and time to create space and time so your definition is correct in that respect. So, where that leaves me is, why God at all? Why the Christian God?
Thank you,
Rhizo
