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Which Comes First?
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RE: Which Comes First?
October 10, 2009 at 12:43 pm
(October 10, 2009 at 12:07 pm)Rhizomorph13 Wrote: So, where that leaves me is, why God at all? Why the Christian God?

I want to see this as well.

As a simpleton I say that something must be responsible for this existence. We have to account for rationality, consciousness, and good and evil...the dimensions of our existence (which exceed all other such known features).

Some people say that the existence of evil means that God is immoral, but why would an immoral god allow for the existence of good? If evil is not sovereign and is temporary then God can logically be good - which is the Christian explanation.

If God does exist then we have a reason to seriously consider good and evil and how we conduct our lives. If He doesn't, then we don't - because ultimately there would be no justice (e.g. if you can get away with it, then why not do it?).
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Which Comes First?

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Which Comes First? - by Retorth - September 29, 2009 at 9:06 am
RE: Which Comes First? - by fr0d0 - September 29, 2009 at 9:47 am
RE: Which Comes First? - by Ace Otana - September 29, 2009 at 10:21 am
RE: Which Comes First? - by Edwardo Piet - September 29, 2009 at 5:30 pm
RE: Which Comes First? - by fr0d0 - September 29, 2009 at 6:42 pm
RE: Which Comes First? - by Edwardo Piet - September 29, 2009 at 7:58 pm
RE: Which Comes First? - by Retorth - September 29, 2009 at 9:50 am
RE: Which Comes First? - by Rhizomorph13 - September 29, 2009 at 11:03 am
RE: Which Comes First? - by fr0d0 - September 29, 2009 at 11:11 am
RE: Which Comes First? - by Retorth - September 29, 2009 at 11:14 am
RE: Which Comes First? - by Rhizomorph13 - September 29, 2009 at 11:21 am
RE: Which Comes First? - by Tiberius - September 29, 2009 at 11:55 am
RE: Which Comes First? - by fr0d0 - September 29, 2009 at 11:56 am
RE: Which Comes First? - by Rhizomorph13 - September 29, 2009 at 12:05 pm
RE: Which Comes First? - by Eilonnwy - September 29, 2009 at 12:00 pm
RE: Which Comes First? - by solarwave - September 29, 2009 at 1:59 pm
RE: Which Comes First? - by Eilonnwy - September 29, 2009 at 2:32 pm
RE: Which Comes First? - by solarwave - September 29, 2009 at 2:48 pm
RE: Which Comes First? - by Rhizomorph13 - September 29, 2009 at 3:18 pm
RE: Which Comes First? - by fr0d0 - September 29, 2009 at 2:29 pm
RE: Which Comes First? - by Eilonnwy - September 29, 2009 at 2:33 pm
RE: Which Comes First? - by LukeMC - September 29, 2009 at 2:35 pm
RE: Which Comes First? - by Retorth - September 29, 2009 at 2:18 pm
RE: Which Comes First? - by fr0d0 - September 29, 2009 at 2:32 pm
RE: Which Comes First? - by Retorth - September 29, 2009 at 2:37 pm
RE: Which Comes First? - by fr0d0 - September 29, 2009 at 2:37 pm
RE: Which Comes First? - by Eilonnwy - September 29, 2009 at 2:44 pm
RE: Which Comes First? - by LukeMC - September 29, 2009 at 2:48 pm
RE: Which Comes First? - by Retorth - September 29, 2009 at 2:40 pm
RE: Which Comes First? - by fr0d0 - September 29, 2009 at 2:46 pm
RE: Which Comes First? - by Eilonnwy - September 29, 2009 at 2:53 pm
RE: Which Comes First? - by fr0d0 - September 29, 2009 at 3:12 pm
RE: Which Comes First? - by LukeMC - September 29, 2009 at 3:19 pm
RE: Which Comes First? - by Eilonnwy - September 29, 2009 at 7:38 pm
RE: Which Comes First? - by fr0d0 - September 30, 2009 at 5:17 am
RE: Which Comes First? - by Edwardo Piet - October 10, 2009 at 12:31 pm
RE: Which Comes First? - by solarwave - September 29, 2009 at 3:23 pm
RE: Which Comes First? - by Rhizomorph13 - September 29, 2009 at 3:47 pm
RE: Which Comes First? - by solarwave - September 29, 2009 at 4:09 pm
RE: Which Comes First? - by Rhizomorph13 - September 29, 2009 at 4:36 pm
RE: Which Comes First? - by solarwave - September 29, 2009 at 5:22 pm
RE: Which Comes First? - by Rhizomorph13 - September 29, 2009 at 5:28 pm
RE: Which Comes First? - by Ryft - September 29, 2009 at 6:04 pm
RE: Which Comes First? - by solarwave - September 29, 2009 at 6:12 pm
RE: Which Comes First? - by Rhizomorph13 - September 29, 2009 at 6:32 pm
RE: Which Comes First? - by solarwave - September 30, 2009 at 3:24 pm
RE: Which Comes First? - by Rhizomorph13 - September 30, 2009 at 5:41 pm
RE: Which Comes First? - by solarwave - October 1, 2009 at 3:31 pm
RE: Which Comes First? - by Ryft - September 30, 2009 at 1:55 am
RE: Which Comes First? - by Edwardo Piet - September 30, 2009 at 8:15 pm
RE: Which Comes First? - by Eilonnwy - October 1, 2009 at 9:02 am
RE: Which Comes First? - by Rhizomorph13 - September 30, 2009 at 10:29 am
RE: Which Comes First? - by fr0d0 - September 30, 2009 at 3:55 pm
RE: Which Comes First? - by Ryft - October 1, 2009 at 4:45 am
RE: Which Comes First? - by Rhizomorph13 - October 1, 2009 at 10:47 am
RE: Which Comes First? - by Violet - October 1, 2009 at 2:40 pm
RE: Which Comes First? - by Rhizomorph13 - October 1, 2009 at 3:04 pm
RE: Which Comes First? - by Violet - October 1, 2009 at 3:16 pm
RE: Which Comes First? - by Eilonnwy - October 1, 2009 at 3:18 pm
RE: Which Comes First? - by Rhizomorph13 - October 1, 2009 at 3:21 pm
RE: Which Comes First? - by Violet - October 1, 2009 at 3:22 pm
RE: Which Comes First? - by Rhizomorph13 - October 1, 2009 at 3:29 pm
RE: Which Comes First? - by Violet - October 1, 2009 at 3:47 pm
RE: Which Comes First? - by Rhizomorph13 - October 1, 2009 at 3:38 pm
RE: Which Comes First? - by solarwave - October 1, 2009 at 4:19 pm
RE: Which Comes First? - by Rhizomorph13 - October 1, 2009 at 4:49 pm
RE: Which Comes First? - by solarwave - October 2, 2009 at 4:10 am
RE: Which Comes First? - by Ryft - October 1, 2009 at 6:01 pm
RE: Which Comes First? - by Eilonnwy - October 2, 2009 at 10:46 am
RE: Which Comes First? - by Rhizomorph13 - October 1, 2009 at 6:22 pm
RE: Which Comes First? - by Ryft - October 2, 2009 at 3:26 am
RE: Which Comes First? - by Violet - October 1, 2009 at 7:27 pm
RE: Which Comes First? - by Rhizomorph13 - October 2, 2009 at 10:32 am
RE: Which Comes First? - by chatpilot - October 2, 2009 at 10:57 am
RE: Which Comes First? - by solarwave - October 3, 2009 at 2:45 pm
RE: Which Comes First? - by Rhizomorph13 - October 4, 2009 at 1:21 am
RE: Which Comes First? - by Retorth - October 4, 2009 at 1:37 am
RE: Which Comes First? - by Ryft - October 4, 2009 at 2:04 am
RE: Which Comes First? - by Rhizomorph13 - October 4, 2009 at 12:41 pm
RE: Which Comes First? - by theVOID - October 4, 2009 at 7:35 pm
RE: Which Comes First? - by Ryft - October 5, 2009 at 1:19 am
RE: Which Comes First? - by Rhizomorph13 - October 5, 2009 at 10:51 am
RE: Which Comes First? - by Ryft - October 9, 2009 at 2:06 am
RE: Which Comes First? - by Rhizomorph13 - October 10, 2009 at 12:07 pm
RE: Which Comes First? - by ecolox - October 10, 2009 at 12:43 pm
RE: Which Comes First? - by Edwardo Piet - October 10, 2009 at 1:01 pm
RE: Which Comes First? - by solarwave - October 10, 2009 at 3:45 pm
RE: Which Comes First? - by Edwardo Piet - October 11, 2009 at 6:20 am
RE: Which Comes First? - by ecolox - October 11, 2009 at 1:14 pm
RE: Which Comes First? - by Edwardo Piet - October 11, 2009 at 8:14 pm
RE: Which Comes First? - by ecolox - October 11, 2009 at 9:22 pm
RE: Which Comes First? - by theVOID - October 12, 2009 at 11:57 am
RE: Which Comes First? - by ecolox - October 12, 2009 at 5:51 pm
RE: Which Comes First? - by theVOID - October 12, 2009 at 6:12 pm
RE: Which Comes First? - by ecolox - October 12, 2009 at 6:35 pm
RE: Which Comes First? - by theVOID - October 12, 2009 at 7:03 pm
RE: Which Comes First? - by ecolox - October 12, 2009 at 10:18 pm
RE: Which Comes First? - by Edwardo Piet - October 13, 2009 at 6:00 pm
RE: Which Comes First? - by ecolox - October 10, 2009 at 5:35 pm
RE: Which Comes First? - by ecolox - October 10, 2009 at 7:41 pm
RE: Which Comes First? - by chatpilot - October 5, 2009 at 12:07 pm
RE: Which Comes First? - by Ryft - October 11, 2009 at 6:01 am
RE: Which Comes First? - by Tiberius - October 11, 2009 at 10:48 am
RE: Which Comes First? - by Ryft - October 11, 2009 at 9:48 pm
RE: Which Comes First? - by Violet - October 12, 2009 at 12:39 pm
RE: Which Comes First? - by ecolox - October 14, 2009 at 2:35 am
RE: Which Comes First? - by Edwardo Piet - October 15, 2009 at 10:27 pm
RE: Which Comes First? - by padraic - October 15, 2009 at 11:04 pm
RE: Which Comes First? - by chatpilot - October 14, 2009 at 12:38 pm
RE: Which Comes First? - by Edwardo Piet - October 16, 2009 at 9:59 am
RE: Which Comes First? - by ecolox - October 16, 2009 at 4:26 pm
RE: Which Comes First? - by theVOID - October 17, 2009 at 8:31 am
RE: Which Comes First? - by Ryft - October 19, 2009 at 5:52 am
RE: Which Comes First? - by Edwardo Piet - October 19, 2009 at 7:30 pm
RE: Which Comes First? - by theVOID - October 19, 2009 at 7:38 pm
RE: Which Comes First? - by Ryft - November 8, 2009 at 7:33 pm

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