RE: School shooting in CT, 18 kids 8 adults dead.
December 15, 2012 at 5:11 am
(This post was last modified: December 15, 2012 at 5:25 am by Creed of Heresy.)
(December 15, 2012 at 4:58 am)Moros Synackaon Wrote: Tell me how hard it is going to be killing 26 people if you had a billy club compared to glocks with high capacity magazines?
There is a degree of ease of access that makes a criminal go through more or less effort.
More effort usually means they have a higher chance of blowing their cover and being caught, sometimes even preemptively.
Well, my M9 Beretta, the sidearm issued to US military personnel but also available commercially, which was purchased by me [my brother technically paid for it, but I had to buy it and register for ownership within the state of Virginia [I was intending to buy a second later, but that did not happen; in the state of Virginia you don't need a permit to own, but you DO need a permit to buy more than one per month; this MAY have changed, however, since this was six years ago], and I had to get a permit to carry-conceal.
It took me two hours to get through the paperwork, and an additional three days for the information to go through so I could make my purchase.
I managed to purchase my Lupara [a double-sawed-off-barrel shotgun, in poor condition upon purchase but has since been refurbished to like-new condition] on the streets of DC a few years prior for $60 [my older Glock, long since having been scrapped, was the one purchased for $20] within an hour and a half.
If you want to kill a weed, you don't chop off the stem, you kill the root. You want to stop the murders, stop the hate and treat the mentally ill. Yes, we as a society are trying to do both. Maybe we need to try harder. Or resign ourselves to the fact that is inevitable if we really can't do that, though it should outrage and distress us no less when it happens.
Also, to answer your question, it might be trickier to kill 26 people with, say, a Bowie, before the cops show up. Unless you corner the poor children in a room and start shanking...and, really, I'd rather be shot to death than stabbed to death. Or he could have used the internet to learn how to make a homemade mini-crossbow, which with a couple hours of effort can be used to fire crochets fast enough and rapidly enough to be just as lethal as a gun.
You take away guns, people are going to use knives or crossbows or a fucking bottle of draino with tin foil and hydrochloric acid in it.
I should point out that I am NOT saying that you are wrong in your assessment, Moros, though it might seem as such that I am. But I AM saying that a gun in the hands a bad person it does not make. How many millions of gun owners in the US, and we get around 12,000 shooting deaths in the US [the actual count is like 30,000 but 2,000 are self-defense/law-enforcement and around 16,000 are suicides by firearm; goes without saying that a suicide isn't going to be stopped if firearms are not available]. Yes, there is an element of difficulty involved, but we have a problem with crime in this country, too; the government saying "no guns for anyone ever!" is not going to stop people with criminal intent from procuring one, is all I am saying. And as a person who otherwise abides the law, I'd like some form of self defense readily available to me beyond just my fists or a switchblade if someone with an illegally procured assault rifle starts shooting up the mall I'm shopping for video games and Taco Bell in, get me?
