(November 10, 2012 at 12:12 pm)SpecUVdust Wrote: If god really exists, that does not mean he should be worshipped. It certainly would not imply that he loves you.
Consider this...
You stand over an anthill and contemplate your next course of action. You could do a number of things. You could kick it and stomp every ant until all is destroyed; you could stand there and just watch; you could kill one ant, 2 ants, etc., or no ants;You could walk away and pay no attention; you could step back and watch from a distance; if another colony was marching toward "your" anthill to wage war, you could spray the antagonists with raid; etc., etc., etc.
You hold that anthill's future in your hands. You are their "god." Seeing as how you have the ability to do whatever you desire, then it is logical that whatever you do will be based on what you "desire" to do. Whatever you want to do, you will do. you would not desire to do one thing, yet do another. You would not be held in contempt for your actions and you would know that.
Apply this to god and the earth. If god exists, then all evil is allowed by him to exist and therefore he desires it.
Cristians say: " god is perfect and cannot lie and he said he will always love us, therefore it is true."
Well, if god is all-powerful, who are you to say he can't change his mind? What a god wants to do will become what he does, period, as there would be nothing capable of stopping him.
If god did not desire evil, he would not allow it. If he says, "I'll end it later", this implies that it is currently entertaining him.[/color]
To add to that as Hitchens put it in his books and speeches, something to the effect of "I would not want to live in a celestial North Korea. Where every move you make is watched with no respite, every second of the day 24 hours, 365 days a year".
Fortunately for humans such a monster does not exist. Unfortunately for humanity people still believe in all sorts of god/s because they do not understand that it is nothing more than their own delusion and wishful thinking that drives them to division and war over such claims.
An omni potent god(if one were reviewing a character in a book) such a character could not be moral nor worth worshiping in the slightest.
I have put out the following example several times before on multiple websites:
How many people reading this would pay good money to go out to see a new Superman movie, where there was a scene where he walks past an ally and sees a woman being raped and DOES NOTHING and watches her get her throat slit and get murdered and then ONLY AFTER she is dead, does he decide to confront the killer.
There is only one reason bad things happen in life, because we observe bad things happening. But if one can accept there is no Superman, and most humans already reject the god claims of all others besides their own, then it should not be a stretch to be introspective enough to examine the one god one might hold to be true.
Good and bad are a result of human existence, not a god, or gods, and are just as fictitious as claims as Superman.
