(December 27, 2012 at 12:45 am)Undeceived Wrote: Then they would no longer be nonmaterial. If some "miracle" force healed people every time you did a certain procedure, we would call that force natural. The scientific method measures repeatable phenomena. If an event is repeatable, it must be natural.
If you assume that something non-material, by definition, cannot affect the material, then you should no longer classify the myths of Christianity (your god, angels, human souls etc) as non-material.
(December 27, 2012 at 12:03 am)genkaus Wrote: [quote='Undeceived' pid='378387' dateline='1356583510']The source is internal, either by God living in us or by our being made in the image of God. And we gain the fruits as we age. Does a person become more natural as they age, or less natural?
He remains as natural as before. If the source was something non-material, then, by your own logic, it would not be able to affect our material existence.
