(December 30, 2012 at 6:37 pm)Drich Wrote:(December 30, 2012 at 4:17 pm)RichardP Wrote: But the real question is why is Jesus waiting to come again?to save all of the comming generations looking to be saved.
Apparently your god isn't very good at math. Since "broad is the pathway to destruction" and he admits that few get into heaven, his delaying of the inevitable isn't exactly saving more people, it's condemning more souls to hell. In fact, one can easily argue that the only reason god would want to further delay his return is because he alone benefits by getting more subservient lobotomized slaves to worship him in heaven. What a narcissistic bastard you serve.
(December 30, 2012 at 10:19 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Takes some practice to learn to ride a horse. How would it look for the king of kings to fall off and break his fucking neck?
(December 31, 2012 at 3:40 am)Mark 13:13 Wrote: Just as a fish being rescued out of a drying up pool in a drought will struggle and suffer in the hands of its rescuer and won't understand that it is being relocated into a lake bigger than it could ever imagine, we can feel the same when something so much more advanced than us moves us from the finite to the infinite.
That same hand will let those rescued fish and all those left behind, fry on a grill. Your god, much like your analogy, is a load of bosh.
(December 31, 2012 at 12:56 pm)Mark 13:13 Wrote: I can and do understand your position; I might choose a different choice of words to express them but what the hell. Its you and you are expressing yourself and with a bit of oomph. We both know that I can't offer you the proofs you ask for (it would be like me asking you to explain what an orgasm feels like to a person paralysed since birth) and as far as the bible goes that's not a starting point to my faith, Jesus is. Without Him reading the Bible would be like trying to make sense of any book without being able to read. I believe that if you ask God to reveal Himself (convention) to you if he exists then he will in time but don't expect a Moses event lol. Apart from a little time and a feeling of being a little stupid what have you really got to loose?
I always find it amusing that christards think that non-believers have never tried their religion. I was a devout believer once upon a time, so were these devout men of god. Get your head out of your ass ... many of us have tried the kool-aid.
(December 31, 2012 at 1:44 pm)Mark 13:13 Wrote:Darwnian wrote Wrote:Rather than go through all these mental gymnastics isn't just simpler and more logical to assume that he doesn't come and say hello because he doesn't exist?
Yes is the short answer, but consider this, why bother as scientists trying to find the answer to the origin of life the universe and everything when our experience so far seems to lead us just onward to an infinity of causality which means we can never get an answer. Would it not be a simpler and more logical approach to just accept a start does not exist so why go through mental gymnastics about dimensions on dimensions. Have you ever heard of the square root of 1. According to mathematics it doesn't exist, its called in maths an imaginary number. But so much physics is explained by use of this imaginary number.
Yes is the short answer??
Hey pal, yes is the only answer.