RE: new thread for old Atheists, what do you believe is the best argument for the existence of a deity?
January 5, 2013 at 8:46 pm
(January 5, 2013 at 7:45 pm)teaearlgreyhot Wrote: In regards to the OP of the original thread, I'd say the transcendental argument for the existence of God is probably one of the strongest. It's a huge mind fuck.
I just googled that argument, because I had never heard of it.... and landed in carm territory. Looks like a mindfuck, but, as all, once you discover the trick, it's easy.
Correct me if I'm wrong on my findings: The arguments states that logic absolutes exist, regardless of the Universe's existence. The only thing that exists out of the Universe is god, so the atheist position is automatically nullified because it will have to reject these logic absolutes.
Logic exists, so a god must exist (place your favorite deity in here).
Here's something else that exists regardless of the Universe: Math.
This argument seems to be defining god as logic or math or some other abstract thing...
Another convenient redefinition of god to baffle atheists.
What is god?
God is love?
god is any other emotion? (satan is hate, clealy!
)In the beginning there was the word, and the word was god... god is a word?
god is logic?
god is math?
Someone, please, define the entity properly!!
Carrying on, if you accept that logical absolutes exist, then you accept that something out of the Universe, something transcendental, exists. "That something can only be god", because only god can exist out of the Universe.
Something doesn't quite add up here, right?
First you have logical absolutes out of the Universe, fine, no problem with that..... and then, MAGIC POOOF, god is also out of the Universe and is the cause of these logical absolutes.
Again, we land on the old question: what caused god?
Why not skip a step and maintain that logical absolutes, math and the like have no cause? They have always been as they are and always will be.
And they are not god.
Why should something inanimate be such an entity?
